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have we correlated height in the BAIDS theorem?

klopp is foreign, tall and have a good head of hair.

3/3 klopp > 2/3 midget malnourished child mourinho

11-01-2015 , 09:51 PM

#16502

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,767

klopp is a fraud, had a hair transplant

11-01-2015 , 09:51 PM

#16503

Cinarocket

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I see a lot of narratives being built around the whole Chelsea fiasco

11-01-2015 , 09:53 PM

#16504

andyhop

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,253

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashy

klopp is a fraud, had a hair transplant

So you mean he is smart enough that he realised the importance of having good hair?

11-01-2015 , 10:49 PM

#16505

FeralCreature

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 3,148

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cinarocket

I see a lot of narratives being built around the whole Chelsea fiasco

No narratives here, just variance right?

11-02-2015 , 03:16 AM

#16506

ChopSueyyy

formerly IRunWorse

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 18,609

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashy

that pass to offside özil was one of the worst things i have seen from an arsenal attacker in a long while.

yeah thierry welbecky hasnt played in a while

11-02-2015 , 04:34 AM

#16507

Elrazor

losing momentum

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,797

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Manifest

I didn't remember it this way so I took a quick look...

I was just skimming and quoting, I'm sure are there some non-LFC fans in there and I'm sure I missed some. I'll let you be the judge of whether that looks especially boomy to you. Personally I think you're seeing what you want to see at this point.

Kinda makes my point. You can have several good posts about a team and their situation, and you still get someone cherry-picking the juiciest hot-take, putting their own spin on it and running with it.

and that's the thread.

11-02-2015 , 05:48 AM

#16508

thechef

adept

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 1,061

Quote:

Originally Posted by LostOstrich

Once a player has been booked, if anything he ought to be under heavier scrutiny and be given less leniency than a player who hasn't. The idea that a player who's been cautioned already should be allowed to get away with a foul that would be a booking if committed by anyone else on the field is ****ing stupid.

Just reading back through this thread. This is wrong.

11-02-2015 , 06:12 AM

#16509

thechef

adept

Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 1,061

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Manifest

I find myself persuaded by the argument being made that you shouldn't get more leniency after being booked once. This is certainly true based on the letter of the law. Yellows are all created equal theoretically, and a yellow is yellow no matter when, where, or under what circumstances it occurs.

But refs manage the game differently. Why?

Rules and punishments should start with what they are intended to accomplish. Would you all agree that we want to protect the safety of the players while encouraging a free-flowing game devoid of fouls? If that's the case, I'm not sure what purpose is served by sending off Giroud for yelling + clumsiness. We want a safe, free-flowing match, but what we've done has effectively made Arsenal park the bus and pour cement on the game.

This answers the "why". Refs believe it isn't in the sport's interest to reduce a team to ten men if they can finesse their way around it And because many refs see it this way, there is very often no recompense for the team that has been wronged. The ref has the choice to (A) fundamentally alter the natural flow of the match, or (B) do nothing.

I just wonder if we could get the same deterrent using a punishment that the refs aren't afraid to implement. Because the way it is now, a team like Chelsea usually gets absolutely no recompense for the repeated tactical fouling of Can and Lucas, and Liverpool gets zero recompense for Costa's endangering of their player's health. Might it not be more equitable, and more practically useful, to have punishment that fits the crime in the eyes of the ref, that they are therefore not so hesitant to implement? The ten-minute sin bin is one possibility. A forced substitution would be another (punish the player in the same way as a red; weaken the team but not destroy it; and preserve the free-flowing nature of the match). I'd even rather award a penalty and let the player stay. A goal often is just what a game needs, whereas a sending off his the exact opposite effect.

Just thinking out loud...

You're waaaaaaaaay over-thinking it.

Often yellow vs. not-yellow is a borderline call. If a first YC is given to a player on a borderline call, then I see no problem in letting it go on a second borderline call. He might then be warned he's on thin ice and another borderline call might not go in his favour under the principle of "totting up". No problem with this either.

I don't see how more rules and more punishments to choose from will lead to greater consistency. I'm sure it'll lead to more confusion and more disruption to the flow of a game, though. IMO you have to allow the referee plenty of discretion to apply the rules in a manner that is fair in the context of the game he is refereeing. Occasionally this throws the Asperger crowd into a tizzy when similar situations in different games yield different decisions but it's the lesser of the possible evils. And if you think you can eliminate all possible evils here, you're completely misguided.

11-02-2015 , 07:25 AM

#16510

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 8,132

Re yellow cards.

There will be a three card system being implemented within 5 years, probably green/yellow/red so there will be a lot less leniency being given and a simple three fouls and you're off with a yellow and red card being able to be issued for a first offence.

11-02-2015 , 07:27 AM

#16511

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,767

Quote:

Originally Posted by thechef

fully agreed

11-02-2015 , 07:35 AM

#16512

O.A.F.K.1.1

Ted Patrick

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 27,952

Looks like Terry player manager after this Sunday.

11-02-2015 , 07:48 AM

#16513

SaulGoodman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LostOstrich

The idea that a player who's been cautioned already should be allowed to get away with a foul that would be a booking if committed by anyone else on the field is ****ing stupid.

correct. just apply the rules of the game to the actions on the pitch.

11-02-2015 , 07:51 AM

#16514

NicReynolds

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Clats has previous from this season. City v Spurs I think it was demichells. I don't think refs think about potentially ruining the game, they just bottle it cos they don't want to make a big decision. Not a big deal was made cos spurs went on to win 4-1.

I remember Webb bottling a clear penalty against Suarez by Etoo I think in 13/14 season. These things generally even out. It's not a massive problem other than being irritating the times when it goes against you and you don't win the game.

Last edited by NicReynolds; 11-02-2015 at 07:57 AM.

11-02-2015 , 07:51 AM

#16515

Hoopie1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1

Looks like Terry player manager after this Sunday.

Captain, leader, legend, manager, centre forward?

This could be ****ing epic.

11-02-2015 , 07:56 AM

#16516

NicReynolds

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Terry in at Chelsea, Giggs at utd and ian wright at Arsenal please universe.

11-02-2015 , 07:59 AM

#16517

MindFckr

Classic Arsenal GHW

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 25,585

Can we get the list of names that thought this LEGEND is going to be the first one to get the boot this season?

Spoiler:

Casualties thus far:

1. Dick
2. "Fart sniffer" Brendan
3. Sherwoat (formerly known as Shergoat)
4. ???

According to theMarkt:

Mou- 1.33
McClaren- 5.00
Garry Monk- 9.00 (was shocked to see him in the top3)
Alex Neil- 17.00
Eddie Howe- 23.00

and then no manager to leave @34.00

almost forgot:

Spoiler:

Last edited by MindFckr; 11-02-2015 at 08:10 AM.

11-02-2015 , 08:29 AM

#16518

royalblue

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What price is Wenger at

11-02-2015 , 08:37 AM

#16519

LostOstrich

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I not only named ranieri for the sack race, I backed him. Also backed Brent, which was a less terrible wager but was cruelly pipped at the post when Advocaat resigned before the derby match.