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10-16-2015 , 03:30 PM
1% fight
10-16-2015 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BertieWooster
Has anyone bothered to look at whether or not the sum of transfer dealings carried out under Rodgers' reign are any worse than comparable clubs? Notwithstanding the fact that you can't even really judge whether a transfer was a success or failure until the player leaves the club - hopefully we'll be able to categorically label Lovren a total failure in the not too distant future
If one were to defend the transfer record of the past few years the only hope would be to point to the policy of investing in developmental talent, which might eventually bear fruit. The idea in a perfect world would be for players like Markovic, Origi, Moreno, Gomez and Can (£40M right there) to spend a 1-2 years developing, 4-5 years performing well for the club, and then recoup the investment or turn a profit when sold around their peak.

I don't buy it though.

As unhelpful as a net spend analysis is here (crediting Rodgers for cashing in on talent he didn't identify or recruit, then debiting him for investments that will ultimately pay dividends for someone else) the eye test is sufficient here. And the simplest eye test is to look at the mature players who were brought in to contribute immediately: there's a range of course, but overall the group of highly priced veterans (Lovren, Lallana, Allen, Balotelli, Sturridge, Sakho) have performed very poorly relative to the price tag.

While I think it's dumb to blame BR for "choosing" not to spend the Suarez money on one world class replacement (it's not like he didn't want players like Sanchez and Willian, he simply failed to sign them), and I also think the inability to offer competitive wages was a much bigger road block than people acknowledge, the fact is that he overpaid for a lot of players who weren't that good. I understand WHY he did it -- Lallana is a safer bet than, say, Tadic, and the extra money wasn't coming out of his salary. But he still did it.

I'm sure BR feels hard-done. But panic-buying upper mid-table talent is not an acceptable solution to losing Suarez and getting snubbed by Sanchez. The hope with Klopp is twofold: (1) he will lose the battles for Suarez, Sterling, Sanchez, Willian a little less, and (2) when he does lose those battles he will have the wisdom and self-confidence to fall back on tactics, coaching and bargain shopping over buying a mid-table all-star team.
10-16-2015 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Burnss
first football game of the season tomorrow. and first time ive ever been london Any bar recs in chelsea area?
There is/was a gay pub very close to the ground that was always completely empty on matchdays for some reason so I always went there with my Dad for a safe away pub.

He called it the Shirtlifter's Arms which I believe could be construed as homophobic nowadays.
10-16-2015 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Ledders

He called it the Shirtlifter's Arms which I believe could be construed as homophobic nowadays.
Plus it'll get you a booking.
10-16-2015 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
Except I'm not attempting to dispute that BR was a wasteful, underperforming manager. We are all aware that LFC have been in the tallest midget contest far too often for our liking in recent years, and in several of those years it has been Spurs who have in fact been the tallest midget.

I'm focused solely on you behaving like a bore with a "Plop" complex. You can obviously contribute in other ways if you choose to, and I'd encourage you to do so. For example, we have a very compelling matchup at WHL tomorrow. I'd be happy if you'd join us in discussing the tactics of said matchup. Being a weekly Spurs viewer I'm sure you have more to offer in this regard than another "lol Plop, they spent more than we did in jointly falling short of our goals" post.
10-16-2015 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Consty
There's a rumour going around that Sturridge has got injured in training.
I've read that Rossiter came back from England with a hamstring problem and was set to miss Spurs. (CM is the one spot at which we had depth left at least). Hadn't heard anything about Sturridge, but that's one piece of news that we're all psychologically prepared to hear at any moment...
10-16-2015 , 04:10 PM
Dicksauce planning to move country of the back of $10/12k winnings to play fantasy sports is best thing itt for a while.

Last edited by unwantedguest; 10-16-2015 at 04:11 PM. Reason: ****face and his rant about the poor people is still a low point.
10-16-2015 , 04:51 PM
People in a £75 team kit with an iPhone, iPad and flatscreen who used to have season tickets to watch the greatest footballers in the world 20 times a year but have now feel the squeeze of ticket prices and can only get to 4-5 games are not my definition of poor people. Those are the people I was targeting in my (admittedly stupid) rant. Just because you take aim at "the rich" in a protest doesn't make you "the poor". I happen to think the majority of those people are living a magnificent life due mainly to circumstance, and it bugs me when they play the victim (though I'll acknowledge for the fourth or fifth time that my post was ****ty).
10-16-2015 , 04:56 PM
Mignolet – Clyne, Škrtel, Sakho, Moreno – Emre Can, Lucas – Milner, Coutinho, Lallana – Origi

Sturridge has travelled, late fitness test, above line up more likely though.
10-16-2015 , 05:10 PM
Is that your prediction or something more than that? I think it looks about right FWIW. Lucas-Can is not the kind of midfield I'd want to combat Spurs (not enough pace or agility). We did well there a couple years ago with Lucas-Allen-Henderson, a midfield that offers much more IMO. I'd almost want to sacrifice an attacker and play a 433 so we could at least crowd the midfield. Worry that this particular 4231 could get disjointed offensively and is at risk of being overrun defensively. That said, tactics and formations aren't the same thing, and I'll be excited to see our progression under Klopp whether we impress tomorrow or not.
10-16-2015 , 05:36 PM
Same leaked lineup from the guy on Twitter that's always right
10-16-2015 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Burnss
first football game of the season tomorrow. and first time ive ever been london Any bar recs in chelsea area?
Are you away support or home? If you want a bigger/busier place then there are a bunch south of Earls Court or right around Fulham Broadway. For a better pub experience my favorites are Finsborough Arms (about 3 min from my flat), Kings Arms or Sydney Arms (personal favorite but a bit longer walk to the ground).
10-16-2015 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Elrazor
Ignoring Manure and oil clubs, Plop have spent £200m net (not gross, net) more than Spurs, and £60m more than Arsenal in the last 5 seasons, and finished higher in the league once iirc.
Much lower wage bill than teams above, though.
10-16-2015 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by stevie_larson
Are you away support or home? If you want a bigger/busier place then there are a bunch south of Earls Court or right around Fulham Broadway. For a better pub experience my favorites are Finsborough Arms (about 3 min from my flat), Kings Arms or Sydney Arms (personal favorite but a bit longer walk to the ground).
I live in Fulham. Do not drink in Fulham. Go a bit north to hammersmith and pop into a Weatherspoons. Unless you're keen to pay 5.50 a pint
10-16-2015 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by yDONKy
I live in Fulham. Do not drink in Fulham. Go a bit north to hammersmith and pop into a Weatherspoons. Unless you're keen to pay 5.50 a pint
Yeah I should have noted that. I prefer drinking in non-SW areas but if you want to be close to the ground was just listing some options. Personally dislike Earls Court and Fulham Broadway especially.
10-16-2015 , 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Consty
Mignolet – Clyne, Škrtel, Sakho, Moreno – Emre Can, Lucas – Milner, Coutinho, Lallana – Origi

Sturridge has travelled, late fitness test, above line up more likely though.
that'll be 3 pts to spurs then
10-16-2015 , 10:53 PM
Sturridge is still fit to be on the bench which is curious why wouldnt he risk him now considering Benteke and Firmino are coming back like next week.
10-16-2015 , 10:58 PM
I think it could be a case of Klopp laying the law to the players in a "Im so serious about this running **** that Im willing to play Origi over Sturridge to prove it" kinda way.
10-17-2015 , 02:09 AM
At my bros in LA he must have 500+ channels but not NBC SN wtf is this ****. I think it's Comcast too.
10-17-2015 , 02:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest
I'm focused solely on you behaving like a bore with a "Plop" complex.
I think it's perfectly standard to post banter before a big game between what are effectively the two teams slugging it out for 5th.

I did post earlier about Spurs problems in CM. I think perhaps the most interesting thing about today's game from a Spurs perspective is "How much will we miss Dier?" who has started every game this season as a DM. You're more than welcome to give an opinion on that.

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Originally Posted by mw828
that'll be 3 pts to spurs then
Tempting fate here, but that does look a particularly bad Liverpool team. If Klopp drops Milner into a 3 it could cause problems, but I just don't see Milner/Lallana/Coutinho creating or scoring nearly enough goals long term, and the whole 5 lack pace (but then so do we bar Alli).

Last edited by Elrazor; 10-17-2015 at 03:03 AM.
10-17-2015 , 06:12 AM
1 hour left for LMS entries, €10/$12 to matt20 on stars and pm pick and email address. Just hit 100 runners
10-17-2015 , 06:16 AM
RIP Howard Kendall. Crowd's going to be well up for Utd even more now I imagine.
10-17-2015 , 06:34 AM
RIP
10-17-2015 , 06:35 AM
Every where Benitez goes there are "dark forces" working against him. What a deluded muppet.
10-17-2015 , 06:38 AM
Yeah, gg Howard. Words won't go close to expressing the respect and gratitude, but there will be some pretty emotional scenes today.

I'm not a big fan of public displays of grief for people I never met so I hope Goodison doesn't go all princess Diana. Of course we're all saddened and we all appreciate what he did for our club, so hopefully this can be conveyed with some level of dignity. And of course, the best way to honour his memory will be on the pitch!

      
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