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10-12-2015 , 12:29 AM

#14026

valenzuela

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 28,085

I remember all games of the chile World Cup qualifying campaign for France 98 and it began when I was 7.

10-12-2015 , 12:33 AM

#14027

valenzuela

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Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 28,085

In fact I can tell you every competitive game Chile has play since 1995 and the winner of game. Exact scores may be wrong.

10-12-2015 , 12:34 AM

#14028

Burnss

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 4,539

That's very very impressive. My memory must just be ****.

10-12-2015 , 12:37 AM

#14029

valenzuela

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Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 28,085

I have a sick long term memory. However if I read something today I won't remember it tomorrow.
For instance every time I discuss in which year something happened I'm always right. I got the skill from my mom. She has lost some of her mojo lately now that she he is her late 50s( will be 60 next month in fact).

Edit: I also know the bracket of every World Cup since 1994

Last edited by valenzuela; 10-12-2015 at 12:45 AM.

10-12-2015 , 12:50 AM

#14030

valenzuela

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Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 28,085

Groups were iirc:

A: USA Switzerland Romania Colombia

B: Brazil Cameroon Sweden Russia

C: Germany Spain Bolivia South Korea

D: Argentina Nigeria Bulgaria Greece

E: Italy Mexico Ireland Norway

F: holland Belgium Saudi Arabia morocco

Then

Brazil > USA
Holland > Ireland
Sweden > Saudi Arabia
Romania > Argentina
Italy > Nigeria
Spain > Switzerland
Bulgaria > Mexico
Germany > Belgium

Then the team in top wins the tie. ( Brazil beats holland , Sweden beats Romania etc)

10-12-2015 , 02:53 AM

#14031

Tall Paul

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 9,367

Quote:

Originally Posted by tchaz

"you have to have a trick"

WOAT colour commentator oat

He's a better commentator than he was a manager though.

It was 18 years ago yesterday that he got his first league win as a manager, the same day England were drawing 0-0 in Rome to qualify for the World Cup. Almost the middle of October after being appointed in the summer, what a disaster he was.

10-12-2015 , 02:54 AM

#14032

kingweed

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 46,756

Lol hh

Greats of the game would easily make it in this era, better boots, balls, pitches etc would only help improve their techniques and what not.

Players use to get the utter **** kicked out of them as players couldn't get near them, even 15-20 years ago.

I seen a tackle from Jones on vine last night where he completely took McManaman out. Not even a yellow.

If players where able to nail Messi without any consequences to stop him he wouldn't be nearly as effective! He'd still GOAT it up and be too quick for some, just like the greats of the game.

10-12-2015 , 03:26 AM

#14033

Elrazor

losing momentum

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,802

Quote:

Originally Posted by jalfrezi

There's a theory that has a lot of support regarding ELO ratings that posits inflation as endemic in the ratings system, and that you shouldn't compare ratings between players of different eras.

To take an extreme example, if you go back (as some have) and rate all players in all tournaments from year dot, Capablanca/Alekhine/Lasker, some of the strongest WC of all time, hardly break 2700. There are 44 players in the world now rated at least 2700:

http://2700chess.com/

EDIT: sorry for derail

This really good example reminds me of the Bannister story. Before Rodger Bannister, It was thought that it was physiological impossible for a human to run a mile in less than 4 minutes, and at that point no one in history had done it.

Bannister was an Oxford medical student who thought different. Obviously the rest is history, but after Bannister ran a 4 minute mile, in the next 12 months something like 30 more runners broke the barrier.

This obviously wasn't a result of a leap forward in physiology - the only thing that changed was people's beliefs, as someone changed the parameters of what was possible.

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WRT football, it's worth noting that 25 years ago an ACL injury was touch and go the end of your career. Illustrates how far medical knowledge and practice has advanced.

10-12-2015 , 04:21 AM

#14034

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74,751

Quote:

Originally Posted by Human Halo

I read that in 1986 Nigel Short's highest ELO rating was 3rd in the world. By 2000 his rating wouldn't have been in the top 50, probably top 100 now but I haven't checked.

His rating then, dunno, there's been rating inflation. Short's current rating is top 100 fwiw

10-12-2015 , 04:26 AM

#14035

PeteBlow

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 14,553

Quote:

Originally Posted by valenzuela

I'm the same, I used to freak out my parents by describing the spines of books that were visible from my cot as a baby and the weird texture our carpet had at a house we left when I was 2, from when I was crawling.

Introduce me to someone now and I will likely not remember their name a few hours later.
I'm 41 and remember a lot of Spain 82, but Mexico 86 is what I refer to as 'my World Cup' in that it was the one I first obsessed with and can remember weird stuff about.

In 1986, Carlos Manuel being the Portugese scorer in England's opening loss. 3 teams made it through that 4 team group. Portugal missed out, bizarrely.

Even more bizarre was 1982.
England won their opening group with a 100% record, only conceding a single goal (v France).
They still managed to get knocked before the semi finals despite not losing a game or indeed conceding another goal.

That 1982 Brazil team were a joy to watch, but plagued as they they were for years for not having a decent goalkeeper.

Last edited by PeteBlow; 10-12-2015 at 04:35 AM.

10-12-2015 , 05:03 AM

#14036

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 8,132

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingweed

Lol KW

My argument isn't whether they could make it today, my point was that lol to any old time great even being considered for the GOAT or as good as the elite of today.

10-12-2015 , 05:24 AM

#14037

kingweed

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Human Halo

Lol KW

My argument isn't whether they could make it today, my point was that lol to any old time great even being considered for the GOAT or as good as the elite of today.

Which is my point, those guys who where elite with the disadvantages of those days would be even better now.

To say that every single player now is better is just laughable. Like you're statement on Rooney being England's greatest ever player.

10-12-2015 , 05:26 AM

#14038

Sugar Nut

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 20,891

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elrazor

Quote:

The claim that a 4-minute mile was once thought to be impossible by informed observers was and is a widely propagated myth created by sportswriters and debunked by Bannister himself in his memoir, The Four Minute Mile (1955). The reason the myth took hold was that four minutes was a round number which was slightly better (1.4 seconds) than the world record for nine years, longer than it probably otherwise would have been because of the effect of World War II in interrupting athletic progress in the combatant countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_...-4-minute_mile

10-12-2015 , 05:57 AM

#14039

cashy

we have welbeck

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 29,767

god, the "best player" discussion is so boring and always comes down to the same problem of people evaluating a players quality in absolute terms and therefore always overrating the current generation.(messi goat ainec, federer/nadal/djoko all goat lol etc etc)

10-12-2015 , 06:02 AM

#14040

Hoopie1

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Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 26,079

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashy

god, the "best player" discussion is so boring and always comes down to the same problem of people evaluating a players quality in absolute terms and therefore always overrating the current generation.(messi goat ainec, federer/nadal/djoko all goat lol etc etc)

Can someone write this down and nail it to HH's forehead please? Preferably with a really long nail.

10-12-2015 , 06:11 AM

#14041

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 8,132

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingweed

No it isn't though. Just because players in the 1970-80s were fouled more or played on poor pitches etc these are negative values with regards to progression.

In every aspect, football has positively evolved into the sport it is today.

Sir Bobby Charlton GOAT, AMIRITE?

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Cashy,

How is chef-life?

Last edited by HH; 10-12-2015 at 06:17 AM. Reason: @ HOOPIE :'-(

10-12-2015 , 06:29 AM

#14042

Elrazor

losing momentum

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 13,802

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugar Nut

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_...-4-minute_mile

Doesn't change the point of the story tho.

10-12-2015 , 06:46 AM

#14043

PNHH

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Is the guy who had the WR in the 100m in 1963 or whenever ~= Bolt?

10-12-2015 , 07:06 AM

#14044

Sugar Nut

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Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 20,891

apples ~= oranges?

10-12-2015 , 07:08 AM

#14045

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 74,751

Quote:

Originally Posted by PNHH

Is the guy who had the WR in the 100m in 1963 or whenever ~= Bolt?

he was canadian, so i guess not

10-12-2015 , 07:35 AM

#14046

WHO.

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 2

Hi guys,

The seasonal international break has incubated a particular nasty virus, Human Halo AIDS, which seems to have gone airborne.

Standard protocol is to ignore it and hope it returns to NVG where it will be incubated and unable to harm civilised society.
For your and the threads safety, DO NOT engage it in debate about the relative merits of players across eras, as such debate invariably ends with all participants and onlookers contracting HH-AIDS and dying.

Best wishes,

Your friends at the WHO.

10-12-2015 , 07:44 AM

#14047

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 8,132

My logic is undeniable.

10-12-2015 , 07:48 AM

#14048

BAIDS

2013 FA Cup winner

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 32,645

anything other than messi goat is just nonsense perpetrated by olds and befuddleds

10-12-2015 , 07:49 AM

#14049

Cinarocket

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 14,790

Intergenerational rankings are like 99% AIDS and 1% genuinely interesting so this is not a surprising turn of events

10-12-2015 , 08:07 AM

#14050

Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 8,132

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashy

But they're the GOATs of tennis, see below.

Quote: