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You either missed my post above, or you chose to conveniently ignore it. Winning the Bundesliga as Bayern back in the post Klinsmann era (who did his best to try and trainwreck the whole club) was not an easy task, and the league was far away from being a one-team league back then

I agree, Bayern have only won the league 5x more than the next most successful team

10-10-2015 , 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kingweed

I agree, Bayern have only won the league 5x more than the next most successful team

by that definition of the league, plop have never won the league

10-10-2015 , 06:08 AM

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Here is another way to look at it :

For the last 50 years, Bayern has earned on average 15 more points per season that the 2nd most successful club

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Bundesliga_table

10-10-2015 , 06:17 AM

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FIFA aside, what mess is football in?

Lets go back to the glory days of gang violence, **** football and pass backs to the keeper?

What mess? Seriously?

It's now a case that the rich just get richer and the real fans can't afford to go to the games. Once decent clubs are going to the wall. It's unsustainable. The European Superleague is fast approaching and the eventual death of the international game.

I miss the days of when the World Cup was the only time you got to see these exotic teams like Brazil and Argentina, full of amazing players you'd barely heard of.

Progress for some, maybe, but a very short termist view IMO.

10-10-2015 , 06:27 AM

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What, back in the pre-Bosman era and back when there was a maximum of three foreign players in a squad?

The three foreigner rule was hardly a bad thing. The Dutch at AC Milan and the Germans at Inter whilst still allowing them to nurture the talented local youngsters.

Half of the Man Utd Class of 92 would been loaned out if it was today.

I'd much prefer that now.

10-10-2015 , 06:30 AM

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the european super league is dead. people would rather watch spuds - pool than dortmund - juventus

10-10-2015 , 06:37 AM

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the european super league is dead. people would rather watch spuds - pool than dortmund - juventus

Only because Dortmund and Juve aren't in the same division as Chelsea and Man Utd and the players aren't in their fantasy teams.

10-10-2015 , 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kingweed

I agree, Bayern have only won the league 5x more than the next most successful team

Will you stop sniffing glue for five goddamn minutes and acknowledge that, in the mid 2000s, we weren't as dominant as we had been in the mid 80s and as we would be in the mid 2010s?

No one is denying that we were still the best team with the highest potential then. But using that to play down van Gaal's work - especially after taking over from LÖLklinsmann - is disingenuous at best.

10-10-2015 , 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1

FIFA aside, what mess is football in?

Lets go back to the glory days of gang violence, **** football and pass backs to the keeper?

45 quid for the cheapest ticket for an under 16 year old. (of course you could pay 1 quid more for the luxury of "restricted view")

Nothing to see here, folks.
Move along, please.
Football is fine.

10-10-2015 , 06:53 AM

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i don't know man sounds like old man yelling at cloud to me.

Call me simple but if I have the choice between watching amazing players once a week or once a year i'll go with once a week

10-10-2015 , 06:56 AM

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sixfour

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well i'm off to watch an actual game. matt done to score any time for us is probably a decent bet, given it's against his old club. if we line up 4-4-2, stick it in a double with an away win as we usually get dicked by teams above us like rochdale

10-10-2015 , 06:57 AM

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World cup is every 4 years

10-10-2015 , 07:02 AM

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Just tuning in for football focus and find out its finished

10-10-2015 , 07:03 AM

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Just tuning in for football focus and find out its finished

another example of english football in crisis

10-10-2015 , 07:09 AM

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di matteo won the CL with the worst chelsea side in their entire history

Is this an unintended 2003 joke?

10-10-2015 , 07:15 AM

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Aguero out for anywhere between 4-8 weeks depending on reports.

Silva could be back for Spain during the week so not that serious it would seem.

10-10-2015 , 07:41 AM

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Aguero out for anywhere between 4-8 weeks depending on reports.

Silva could be back for Spain during the week so not that serious it would seem.

More crisis,

Shut down English football

10-10-2015 , 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cinarocket

i don't know man sounds like old man yelling at cloud to me.

Call me simple but if I have the choice between watching amazing players once a week or once a year i'll go with once a week

Yes, I never saw anybody good play for us prior to 1992.

10-10-2015 , 08:11 AM

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Exactly.

If there weren't any amazing players prior to Heysel, how the hell did English clubs win so many European titles??

10-10-2015 , 08:11 AM

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O.A.F.K.1.1

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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut

45 quid for the cheapest ticket for an under 16 year old. (of course you could pay 1 quid more for the luxury of "restricted view")

Nothing to see here, folks.
Move along, please.
Football is fine.

At least you can take your under 16 year old without him getting stabbed.

Yes there are problems in modern football, but to pretend there were no serious problems in the past that were just as potent is just pure nostalgia.

10-10-2015 , 08:14 AM

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O.A.F.K.1.1

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Its like attendance at football did not hit record lows in the halcyon days before 1992.

10-10-2015 , 08:24 AM

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O.A.F.K.1.1

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This article makes for an interesting read imo:

The time when football fans were hated

I think it nails why some really hanker for the good old days:

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Anyone who watched football at that time will have their own stark memories. The stadiums were primitive. Men urinated against walls or into sinks at half-time due to the lack of toilets. What few women fans there were would have struggled to find a ladies toilet.
Fans stood packed together like sardines on the terraces, behind and sometimes under fences.

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The stadiums were ramshackle and noisy. Danger hung in the air along with the cigarette smoke. That was part of the thrill for many young men, Evans says. And it bred a camaraderie that is missing today.

Fans used to be seen as basically scum, and were treated as such by the police and authorities, now its very different and football crowds are treated pretty much like crowds at any other event.

Football is sanitized and expensive and commercialised, and maybe to much so, but its a pretty **** false dichotomy to say go back to the 80s.

Any alternative to the present offering would still have to be much more inclusive, tolerant and safe then football was in the 80s.

10-10-2015 , 08:24 AM

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As an old, who went to way more games between 1982-2000 than I've been to since, I feel qualified to point out that football before the turn of the century was rubbish.

10-10-2015 , 08:27 AM

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Those record lows were in the dark days of the Euro ban.

It's Everton I really felt sorry for back then. They had just won the Cup Winners Cup and the old Div 1 and were about to get their chance in the European Cup.

That side would've been remembered as one of the greats, but it ended up being broken up.

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