- Claim he hasn't had success
- Get confronted with successes
- Wave away and downplay said successes

Got it

Anyway, your team play ****ty football a high % of the time under him at the moment so I can understand you wanting LvGOut! Fair is fair. But saying he's a hack living off 1 success from the 90s is just factually wrong.

I didn't claim he didn't have success. What I have done is said he hasn't done anything of note.

Winning the league with Bayern isn't impressive. Winning league with BvB is (wanted klopp). The vast majority of full time Bayern managers win the league or cups. It's just how it is. lol Klinsmann probably the only one in my life time who hasn't won the league with them.

It was more down to him falling out with everyone every where he goes. That my original do not want was from. He fell out with Barca and their players in both his spells and the Barca players don't like him. It arguably cost us Pedro.

I was just being a dick with the McClaren stuff and AZ to be fair.

As I said I'm being too harsh on him but it's mainly down to my hatred for his bs (his we played better crap) and bs style of play.

Cina-most of LVG transfers have been excellent and the net spend isn't too high considering how much of the squad needed overhauling.

Aguero looks out of the Derby.

City are a couple of injuries away from playing Delph and Fernando in mf and Sterling at CF.

everyone's a couple injuries away from some real ****

City are now missing Yaya/Silva/Aguero though.

The point is some people are away from some real ****, others are already in the ****.

and kompany

Like Barca missing Messi, Iniesta, Raktitic and Pique.

Or Spurs missing Kane, Dele Alli, Dier and Vertonghen.

You've never been to the Pott, have you?

Been to Pool, no way its worse. NO WAY.

There are plenty of hot ladies in the Pott!

Only takes one>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anfield.

You either missed my post above, or you chose to conveniently ignore it. Winning the Bundesliga as Bayern back in the post Klinsmann era (who did his best to try and trainwreck the whole club) was not an easy task, and the league was far away from being a one-team league back then. We had won the league in 2008 under the literal GÖAT ÖAT Ottmar Hitzfeld, after whom came the literal WÖAT ÖAT Klinsmann.

Van Gaal took over the trainwreck and led it to a double and a Champions League final in his first year. The reason he was sacked was because he's a pain in the ass to deal with on a personal level. I'll give you that. But football wise, I couldn't be happier that he was our coach back then, as we're still - to this very day - profiting from that fact. He was the guy who introduced "Juego de Posicion" to Bayern, which Jupp Heynckes continued (and made more vertical) and which made Pep Guardiola interested enough to join us despite City offering more money (FACT!).

tl;dr:
Dislike van Gaal all you want for the fact that he has the social skills of a psychopathic twelve year old, but if you honestly think he sucks at football (and rode some imaginary Bayern guarantee to win the domestic double every year regardless of who's their coach), you're simply delusional.

Here are our table positions in the year van Gaal won it with us.

LÖL one-team-league.

ya but buyern revenue was only about 50% greater than next closest rival back then (schalke), so you could only buy about half the leagues best players

now its about 100% greater than closest rival which is why u have 100% of the best players

Good fantasy managers are happy. When Aguero is fit, a fantasy team is all about Aguero + 10 others. The skill is the 10 others.
Now it's back to 11 others.

di matteo won the CL with the worst chelsea side in their entire history

I don't come here much, but here's my take on this gross/net spend talk that happens a lot on here.
Big clubs are expected to have a high gross spend. They are buying the 'best' players after all.
When those big spending clubs have a significantly lower net spend, they are clearly selling a lot of players too.

There's 4 reasons why players are sold
1. You're a selling club. If you ever stumble on anyone decent, you'll be lucky to still have them when the window next shuts.
2. You've bought loads of supposedly decent players, but they stopped being good as soon as you got them.
3. You're a club in transition, mainly because of a new manager.
4. You simply got someone better.

Great clubs tend towards reason 4.
Rubbish clubs tend towards reason 1.
..with Arsenal appearing to be the exception that proves the rule.

If you're a big club and you're proud of your net spend despite your gross spend being so high, you're doing it wrong. Don't brag about it or use it as evidence of being a well run club. It indicates the opposite.

So says everyone who thinks English football didn't exist before the Premier League....

If it wasn't for the bloody Premier League, football wouldn't be in the mess it now is. I doubt even the FIFA scandal would be what it is.
If it wasn't for Heysel, Sky wouldn't have been able to buy football on the cheap and we wouldn't even have the Premier League.

The European leagues don't need big TV deals. They just take advantage of the overinflated one in England.

Thanks Plop.

Hilsborough was the main catalyst in the development of modern football in England. Otherwise I agree.

Not that Heysel didn't do its part, too. Just saying.

Oh yeah? My bad then. See, I have a bad memory, being old and all. For example, I have also forgotten what happened in the 38-game season for Chelsea during that year. Can you help me out here, too?

I know what you're saying but I think football would've been the same as now, just in crappier stadiums, without Hillsborough.

If anything, Hillsborough just delayed the Euro money grab as clubs had to spend their cash on stadium improvements instead of mediocre imports.

The modern stadiums are great though and that's been a real plus.
Remember when Pride Park and the Reebok were opened? They looked so futuristic for England! Lol


English football was dominant before the ban. 7 out of 8 European Cups before Heysel. The kids who were inspired by those days formed the Mexico 86 and Italia 90 World Cup teams and they inspired the Euro 96 generation. Anyone who was inspired by 96 found they couldn't get a club because the cheap imports had taken their potential places.

FIFA aside, what mess is football in?

Lets go back to the glory days of gang violence, **** football and pass backs to the keeper?