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09-24-2015 , 10:50 AM
Is there a place where all xG is located that isn't a twitter feed? Or a table?
09-24-2015 , 10:56 AM
xG isn't an objective thing. So you have to find someone whose xG calculations you trust.
09-24-2015 , 11:00 AM
I trust none though interested enough to test it out. I've assumed they've all been coming from the same source!
09-24-2015 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777

Pool are much closer to Arsenal in spending power than they are to Tottenham if every club is going to be getting even more TV dollars at a roughly equal clip going forward then this gap is even smaller relatively speaking.
Source?
09-24-2015 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cashy
lolkane should take a few finishing lessons from flaminigoat
Like saying Heston Blumenthal should take soufflé lessons from Ainsley Harriott.

Or

Alexi Sanchez should read how to get the ball into the goal by Calum Chambers
09-24-2015 , 11:17 AM
arse's new accounts show a fairly hefty revenue increase from the widely available numbers which i expect jake is using to compare arse & pool,



most of it due to increases in commerical revenue and toilet roll holder sales. from what i can make out the the £12m increase from 2014 labelled property development is basically selling off bits of the old highbury, tho this is an annual report so ofc its as opaque as possible. i have no idea if that £12m is going to £0 next year, or £50m, or what.

anyway pool havent published yet but i reckon even with pool's CL run cash due to hit the next lot of accounts, arse will still have grown their revenue by more over 2014/15. the gap is pretty significant.

btvditw will compress that a bit in relative terms as you have noted, but i still think you need an arab to turn up if you really want to compete with arse for signings.

imo post btvditw its gonna be mun, buyern, rm etc competing for top talent, arse will have their pick of whoever slips through the cracks (and might even poach a top talent if arsene stops being a tightarse), and then it'll be pool vs spuds vs dortmund vs atletico vs juve etc for whoever arse dont want.
09-24-2015 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Human Halo
Source?

Just going by the Deloitte Money League 2015 revenue numbers and what the Swiss Ramble has posted on Liverpool back in March

Edit - thx BAIDS

Last edited by Jake7777; 09-24-2015 at 11:23 AM.
09-24-2015 , 11:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZAIDS
Is there a place where all xG is located that isn't a twitter feed? Or a table?
It's this guy:

https://mcofa.wordpress.com/ (although it hasn't been updated some months)

He says, "Writing @ESPNFC, @PostSports and @SBNationSoccer", so I assume they are spread around (besides his twitter @MC_of_A)
09-24-2015 , 11:23 AM
Thanks
09-24-2015 , 11:31 AM
just looked up some detailed pool numbers and your commerical revenue in 13/14 was >£100m (vs arse's 78m in 14/15), way more than i expected, maybe things not so bad after all. if you can somehow dislodge them from their CL money for a few years then you'll be able to compete with arse for signings sans arab

dunkin donuts might bespoil the memory of the 96 by putting coffee cups in place of those flames but at least they pay well
09-24-2015 , 11:38 AM
New Liverpool stand

09-24-2015 , 11:51 AM
If you're looking at just pure resources then yes PLOP should be finishing 4-6th but Arsenal haven't been making even close to full use of their financial strength over the last couple of seasons and may not in the future while Wenger is around.

If Rodgers had PLOP operating at max potential like Simeone or Klopp did and they still finished behind the other sides no one would have much of a problem but the side seems to have no direction/idea of how they're supposed to play. His record in the transfer market is woeful and he seems to just make it up as he goes along.
09-24-2015 , 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ZAIDS
I trust none though interested enough to test it out. I've assumed they've all been coming from the same source!
There are different iterations. Caleys is the most prominent.
09-24-2015 , 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by t3hbandit
If you're looking at just pure resources then yes PLOP should be finishing 4-6th but Arsenal haven't been making even close to full use of their financial strength over the last couple of seasons and may not in the future while Wenger is around.

If Rodgers had PLOP operating at max potential like Simeone or Klopp did and they still finished behind the other sides no one would have much of a problem but the side seems to have no direction/idea of how they're supposed to play. His record in the transfer market is woeful and he seems to just make it up as he goes along
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Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding

We have a winner here. Exactly the reasons why so many people want him gone.
09-24-2015 , 01:38 PM
Think most people were pretty happy with Firmino, Clyne and Ings coming in.

I think it's a bigger problem that people are played out of position in a 4-3-3, moreso than trouble in the transfer market.

Edit: I suppose that's a bit of a chicken-egg thing.
09-24-2015 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NicReynolds
Stick Kenny in charge till the end of the season and hire Rafa when Madrid lose a game and they sack him.
Toon struggling too. Would be awesome if Liverpool brought Kenny back and Newcastle brought King Kev back for third managerial spells (it is 3, right? easy to lose track). I would LOVE IT.

Would suggest Newcastle then bring back their most successful manager of recent years but would be hard to prise Pardew away from a top 6 club.
09-24-2015 , 02:55 PM
NZ playing at the soon to be West Ham's new stadium in the RWC
09-24-2015 , 03:00 PM
Have NZ -76 gogogo
09-24-2015 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake7777
Also I think there's a pretty obvious difference between "lol managers, firing Rodgers wont make a difference" as BAIDS says and "lol deluded Plop fans wanting to fire Brentie why can't they just accept their 5th place destiny, and oh btw lol Brentan and his dumb decisions and all the bad transfers Pool have made."
both are right because we can lol at Brentan without it making any difference. short of melt-downs and/or extravagent binks, more or less whatever Brentan does L'pool will be 5th-7th.

ofc one can roll the dice for a Benteke-Sturridge-runhot .. if they can both ever be on the pitch together .. but that's again not within the manager's control
09-24-2015 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sixfour
Have NZ -76 gogogo
gjge
09-24-2015 , 07:00 PM
Here we go!!

09-24-2015 , 07:19 PM
Liverpool problem right now is that the owners dont have a clue about football. Plus even if we aproached Ancelotti or Klopp why would they come here? To try and win an Europa League and fight for 5th place with Spurs? I think they will rather go somewhere else.
Favre seems a decent shout at least based on what he did on Borussia Monchengladbach, he cant be any worse than Rodgers.
09-24-2015 , 07:46 PM
Net Spend last 5 Years:

Manchester City £322,400,000
Manchester United £300,700,000
Chelsea £224,759,000
Liverpool £162,630,000
Arsenal £99,025,000
West Ham £93,400,000
Newcastle £68,400,000
Sunderland £58,880,000
Crystal Palace £50,735,000
West Bromwich Albion £50,241,000
Leicester £46,450,000
Stoke City £46,150,000
Norwich City £43,925,000
Aston Villa £33,650,000
Southampton £32,250,000
Bournemouth £27,350,000
Everton £20,484,000
Swansea £13,715,000
Watford £7,350,000
Tottenham -£36,700,000


i wouldn't really say that ownership is the problem
09-24-2015 , 07:49 PM
fella, talk about net spend plus wages, dont talk about net spend talk about net spend plus wages
09-24-2015 , 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 72off
Net Spend last 5 Years:

Manchester City £322,400,000
Manchester United £300,700,000
Chelsea £224,759,000
Liverpool £162,630,000
Arsenal £99,025,000
West Ham £93,400,000
Newcastle £68,400,000
Sunderland £58,880,000
Crystal Palace £50,735,000
West Bromwich Albion £50,241,000
Leicester £46,450,000
Stoke City £46,150,000
Norwich City £43,925,000
Aston Villa £33,650,000
Southampton £32,250,000
Bournemouth £27,350,000
Everton £20,484,000
Swansea £13,715,000
Watford £7,350,000
Tottenham -£36,700,000


i wouldn't really say that ownership is the problem
The fact that they are spending money doesnt mean we are spending it correctly.

      
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