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Old 08-09-2015, 12:15 PM   #3926
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Re: English Football 2015/16

A point here would already be a 5 goal improvement of GD compared to last year.
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:16 PM   #3927
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I thought xG meant, in part, that a given team shooting just over the bar/wide/hitting the post/directly at a keeper from a dangerous position tends to be a lot of variance. A goalkeeper being slightly slow running out of his box for a cross or caught wrong-footed on a shot from distance is not variance by comparison why?

Is the former, "**** finishing isn't variance either." ?
Cech wasn't slightly off. He was making awful mistakes. Additionally in the case of the header, the entire team took the play off.

Goals change games as well, especially when the away underdogs score. I'm not sure how valid that measure is when Arsenal is chasing and the dogs are sitting back.
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:18 PM   #3928
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hendo milner solid as a rock but really bad at figuring out the right pass in time
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:23 PM   #3929
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holy **** great save
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:25 PM   #3930
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Did Cech throw the game?

Come on Brom tomorrow and we can spin this as a solid weekend
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:28 PM   #3931
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glen impresses me every time with how he gets so consistently worse
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:28 PM   #3932
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if we can sneak one in and then have lovren sent off in the 90th for violent conduct that'd be a perfect day
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:30 PM   #3933
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lol Hendo!
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:30 PM   #3934
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lol hendo you ****
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:31 PM   #3935
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pool look 2x better with no Lallana. Hopefully brent thinks this is just variance.
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:36 PM   #3936
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lol, row z'd
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:37 PM   #3937
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row b in the next stadium
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:37 PM   #3938
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Struggling to make sense of why Stoke would let Nzonzi go for £7m. He was their best CM by a mile and while that may be big money for Sevilla it's not much to a team with tbtvditw.
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:37 PM   #3939
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Cech wasn't slightly off. He was making awful mistakes. Additionally in the case of the header, the entire team took the play off.

Goals change games as well, especially when the away underdogs score. I'm not sure how valid that measure is when Arsenal is chasing and the dogs are sitting back.
Michael Caley factors in gamestate when looking at xG of shots. So shots from a team who's losing 1-0 or 2-0 will have much lower values.

these are all the factors taken into account when assigning values to shots.

The one big one that hasn't been implemented is defender positioning. Teams that pressure and block shots really well will typically outperform most shot or xg metrics because of this.

Fact of the matter is this, west ham didn't really have any big chances, mostly just half chances and ran good on their finishing + poor goalkeeping. Arsenal had a lot of similar half chances, with some pretty good ones mixed in and just didn't do well with their finishing.

This game was just as likely to be 5-1 arsenal as it was for it to be 2-0 to west ham. That's the sort of variance that can occur in a football match.

Arsenal will be fine, they generated lots of good chances and as long as cech's performance was the exception rather than the rule they'll be fine. Chelsea and United had far more worrying performances even though they got better results.
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:38 PM   #3940
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interesting, thanks
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:39 PM   #3941
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both of these teams could use some rando ligue 1 players.
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:39 PM   #3942
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Did Cech throw the game?

Come on Brom tomorrow and we can spin this as a solid weekend
Slightly bad judgement coming off his line for the first goal (this was the back lines fault just as much as cechs).

Second goal was just awful footwork and left himself wrong footed for what should have been an easy routine save.

Both goals were very un cechlike.
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:44 PM   #3943
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hey coutinho did that one thing he does
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lol damn
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:44 PM   #3945
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GOATINHO
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:44 PM   #3946
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row top corner!
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:45 PM   #3947
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Ugggh. Terrible ending to a terrible match.
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:45 PM   #3948
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Worra hit. Coutinhooooooooo
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:46 PM   #3949
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full BOOM ahead
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:46 PM   #3950
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not even in the corner, gotta be some kind of keeper error
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