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10-10-2015 , 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest
Yup, my post was rude, unkind and stupid. I read a post that struck a chord based on a frustrating thread of conversations I've had recently IRL and responded like a moron. I completely deserve the negative backlash that ensued.
OK, come on. Bring it in.

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I may be wrong but I'm under the impression that the Torries haven't gone off the deep end the way American Republicans have (you can't even call them conservatives at this point). I think there are perfectly valid motivations for voting conservative if that's what the party actually is. Personally I don't feel that I have such a choice at this time in the States.
yeah, I find myself arguing with right-wingers more than any other political persuasion tbh and from what I see of the American right there's no way I'd be voting for those crazy bastards, lol. Round here most people either don't vote (majority), vote Labour without having a clue why, or vote UKIP because they're imbeciles.
10-10-2015 , 01:53 PM
Somebody once called Ryan Giggs right wing. Fact was he could play on either side. That's football politics for you though.
10-10-2015 , 01:56 PM
Americans are all right wing as far as I can tell. Even the ones calling themselves left wing.
10-10-2015 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest
Serious question for those who are old enough: was this always the case, or is it a byproduct of the internet?

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Always the case
Confirmed.
10-10-2015 , 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest
Yes. I've heard and read the term "real fan" used many times in a way that condescends towards people whose lives I admire, and I unloaded a pent up opinion at the sight of it here. That was unfair to you.




EDIT: lol, "Yes" in response to Mr. Peter Blow, not to hating scousers. Although I do find provincialism and local fan exceptionalism to be incredibly lame. I'm from Pittsburgh and we were plagued by the same arrogance (and like all arrogances, it's compensating for something...)

EDIT II: They did drop down a peg in my book with what appeared to be the city-wide response to the death of Mrs. Thatcher. Politics aside, that was just crass.
You probably feel that way because you never had to suffer Mrs. Thatcher's policies.
Also probably because you agree with a lot of her stances re: personal rights.

As far as fandom goes, of course it is better to have people who have a vested interest in the teams playing at the actual stadium. I am a Liverpool fan who happened to get season tickets to Arsenal through work and I'll tell you right now that going to the Emirates is ****ing woeful in terms of atmosphere. Again, there are numerous people in the stands who couldn't even tell you which team is Arsenal when they're playing. **** that.
It's almost as boring as going to a typical NFL game where the whole stadium is quiet for 90% of the time.
10-10-2015 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest
Serious question for those who are old enough: was this always the case, or is it a byproduct of the internet?
Think schadenfreude has always been a part of football culture. I've always taken pleasure in United not doing well, same with modern Chelsea. Been a Liverpool fan for the past 30ish years.
10-10-2015 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut
Americans are all right wing as far as I can tell. Even the ones calling themselves left wing.
Anyone that's around center of the political spectrum in the US is a socialist according to the US. Pretty much.
10-10-2015 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kingweed
lol at CDs, do you not a phone? Spotify + music apps + podcasts is the way to head.
In the US, Sirius XM is pretty much the bees.
10-10-2015 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by kevin21
There is no real standout team going into these Euro's. Germany prob in cruise control throughout the group stages and will likely go full throttle when the tournament starts but I don't see England being that far away from contending. This is not a troll. If they run good they have a legit shot esp if they keep everyone fit.
France are a standout imo - home soil, the Strength of the players they have available = should be favourites imo.

Last edited by HH; 10-10-2015 at 02:19 PM. Reason: Variance tho
10-10-2015 , 02:21 PM
Hopefully Sturridge won't be needed for **** Euros.
10-10-2015 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugar Nut
As much as bandit is an idiot, he's right when he says that Germany around the turn of the millennium was utter AIDS.
There was no need for you to be calling Bandit an idiot.
10-10-2015 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Cinarocket
KW the city of cleveland hasnt won a championship in in any of the american major sports for like 50 years. Then they luckboxed lebron james in 2003 through the draft and still couldnt win a title with him
Johnny Football tho
10-10-2015 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ZAIDS
Common mistake, I do it a lot, to say should've instead of could've after the event. England could've beaten Brazil. They are never should've.



You go through the list of players and yea kind of even, england might edge this actually - then the last 3 names = never should've.

Owen was actually current balon d'or though.
What did Ronaldinho get sent off for? I don't remember there being a red card in this game.
10-10-2015 , 04:03 PM
the Cleveland Indians are okay and prob favourites to win their division next year. Browns are aids tho
10-10-2015 , 04:06 PM
The same guy who said that Rodgers was getting sacked right after the Everton game, 2 days before the game, has just said that we're close to signing Ruben Neves.
10-10-2015 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pissychips
What did Ronaldinho get sent off for? I don't remember there being a red card in this game.
I don't remember this either but he went over the ball and his studs into Danny Mills' ankle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hwuGh1vlWU
10-10-2015 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dean Manifest
Yes. I've heard and read the term "real fan" used many times in a way that condescends towards people whose lives I admire, and I unloaded a pent up opinion at the sight of it here. That was unfair to you.




EDIT: lol, "Yes" in response to Mr. Peter Blow, not to hating scousers. Although I do find provincialism and local fan exceptionalism to be incredibly lame. I'm from Pittsburgh and we were plagued by the same arrogance (and like all arrogances, it's compensating for something...)

EDIT II: They did drop down a peg in my book with what appeared to be the city-wide response to the death of Mrs. Thatcher. Politics aside, that was just crass.
Have got this far and I'm hoping PeteBlow has let you have it with both barrels not much further down this page.

Cock.
10-10-2015 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
I never said the 5-1 was lucky. I said it was a freakish result. For once, England played to their golden generation potential and Germany fell apart completely.

The epitome of a one off game, as the struggle to qualify despite that game proved.
Maybe you should stop using ridiculous examples when trying to make a point then. Comparing ROI winning 1-0 in a game they were dominated in almost every department to England 5-1 Germany where it's the complete opposite isn't helping an already poor argument.
10-10-2015 , 05:24 PM
What was the xG score though?
10-10-2015 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Liverpool
The same guy who said that Rodgers was getting sacked right after the Everton game, 2 days before the game, has just said that we're close to signing Ruben Neves.
Pretty big statement of intent if it goes through.
10-10-2015 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Consty
Pretty big statement of intent if it goes through.
Would be one the fabled Transfer Committee has been following for a while I guess
10-10-2015 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by t3hbandit
Maybe you should stop using ridiculous examples when trying to make a point then. Comparing ROI winning 1-0 in a game they were dominated in almost every department to England 5-1 Germany where it's the complete opposite isn't helping an already poor argument.
Every now and again, England show what they are properly capable of.

Croatia in 2004
Germany in 2001
Holland in 1996

Bottom line though. They are one off moments and it's such a shame.

1990 was the last time we could honestly say we were unlucky.
Lineker scored a goal against Germany that showed how great he really was after all his tap ins in Mexico. Platt was on the up. Gazza was sublime.
We lost Bryan Robson from the start but everyone stepped up.
Forget 1998 and 2002. That was an England team that genuinely could've won the World Cup.

Had that 'unlucky' Parker/Shilton moment not happened, we would've made the final and we would've shat all over a declining Argentina (apart from the quite brilliant Cannigia).

The world ended up watching the most boring final that was only beaten by the utter dross that was the final four years later.

Forget England 1996, 2002 and 2006. 1990 was where it was at.
Apart from a pensioner of a goalkeeper, that team was the best by a county mile since 1970, coincidentally, the year Shilton made his England debut.

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10-10-2015 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by royalblue
the Cleveland Indians are okay and prob favourites to win their division next year. Browns are aids tho
Will have it if you're offering
10-10-2015 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Every now and again, England show what they are properly capable of.

Croatia in 2004
Germany in 2001
Holland in 1996

Bottom line though. They are one off moments and it's such a shame.

1990 was the last time we could honestly say we were unlucky.
Lineker scored a goal against Germany that showed how great he really was after all his tap ins in Mexico. Platt was on the up. Gazza was sublime.
We lost Bryan Robson from the start but everyone stepped up.
Forget 1998 and 2002. That was an England team that genuinely could've won the World Cup.

Had that 'unlucky' Parker/Shilton moment not happened, we would've made the final and we would've shat all over a declining Argentina (apart from the quite brilliant Cannigia).

The world ended up watching the most boring final that was only beaten by the utter dross that was the final four years later.

Forget England 1996, 2002 and 2006. 1990 was where it was at.
Apart from a pensioner of a goalkeeper, that team was the best by a county mile since 1970, coincidentally, the year Shilton made his England debut.
When England perform outside your timeframe it's a "one off" but 1990 was because they had a great team. I'd happily take the players available between 2000-06 over the side in 90.

If it hadn't been for a Seaman clanger vs Brazil they probably would have qualified.

      
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