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08-27-2015 , 11:03 AM

#7201

Consty

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Market thinks Bournemouth.

08-27-2015 , 11:05 AM

#7202

xXDeuce7Xx

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He was talking about Shaw's 100k p/w wages, not the transfer fee tbf, although Stones would surely get a similar package being a 40m player and all.

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08-27-2015 , 11:09 AM

#7203

Liverpool

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeDiego

Mourinho, about to bid £40m for 20 year old John Stones, speaking last year about why he didn't pay £30m for 19 year old Luke Shaw:

he's talking about wages

08-27-2015 , 12:01 PM

#7204

joejoe1337

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Quite importantly as well, when he said that it looked like FFP might actually be a thing, which it certainly does not now.

08-27-2015 , 12:16 PM

#7205

MirZolzayn

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Zanetti looks slick

08-27-2015 , 12:28 PM

#7206

DuckSauce

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashy

palace will be the surprise team of the season btw not leicester

This. Good chance they can be last year's soton and will compete for a Europe spot. Cl isn't out of the question with some run good either.

08-27-2015 , 12:51 PM

#7207

BAIDS

2013 FA Cup winner

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joejoe1337

Quite importantly as well, when he said that it looked like FFP might actually be a thing, which it certainly does not now.

ffp is a thing, blitw clubs just have loads more revenue than they did a couple years ago. and it cost them no pence to generate. both of these things are most favourable when it comes to ffp calculations

08-27-2015 , 01:04 PM

#7208

joejoe1337

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but surely City aren't turning over enough to warrant the amount of money they're spending on transfers/wages, and aren't getting much in the way of punishment, which sort of ruins the whole thing for the clubs who are trying to stay within the law.

08-27-2015 , 01:07 PM

#7209

LostOstrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joejoe1337

City's owners can just charge themselves a little more for the sponsorship rights if they need to show more income

08-27-2015 , 01:08 PM

#7210

xXDeuce7Xx

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FFP is supposed to account for such shenanigans.

08-27-2015 , 01:11 PM

#7211

Cinarocket

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JoeDiego knows how much "Mourinho is about to bid" ? what are the lottery numbers for friday euromillions please

08-27-2015 , 01:17 PM

#7212

BAIDS

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city are top 5 itw in revenue

the teams around them (and city themselves) seem to spend £50m or so every year on avg without getting chucked out of europe while increasing their wage bills

chuck in £50m/year from btvditw fairy

bobs your uncle. 100m/year xfer budget here we come

they've also got owners who will chuck in the maximum allowed every year (you can lose 10m euros/year if your owners cover it) which helps a bit

08-27-2015 , 01:49 PM

#7213

PNHH

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At some point the current oil price level gotta hit the owner and make him 2nd guess the decision on splurging on some random.

08-27-2015 , 01:55 PM

#7214

BAIDS

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im no expert on this but low oil prices arent necessarily terrible for the sheiks because it heavily disincentivises investment in oil infrastructure around the world. the big international oil companies like bp and shell are cancelling investment projects left right & centre, which gives the sheiks greater control long term.

this is why opec keeps refusing to cut production despite slumping prices. if oil prices spike then a niagra of US and russian capital flows into oil productive capacity

08-27-2015 , 02:14 PM

#7215

sixfour

should be called sevenfour

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if we're talking about oil prices now then I shudder to think what this forthcoming international break will look like

08-27-2015 , 02:27 PM

#7216

PNHH

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Baids, I sorta agree, but it could also be a 10>9 vs 3>1 situation, 'relative gap towards companies w higher production cost is bigger, but absolute $ revenue is lower'. Who knows when the demand picks up. Hopefully Musk wins and it never happens

Sorry, was thinking about dropping fat Wayne from my team, but after that performance in EUROPE, I'm having 2nd thoughts (true story). What's your take?

08-27-2015 , 02:50 PM

#7217

xXDeuce7Xx

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Drop him like a bad habit imo.

08-27-2015 , 03:43 PM

#7218

MindFckr

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Lol @ picking him up in the first place

08-27-2015 , 03:57 PM

#7219

LFC_USA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckSauce

This. Good chance they can be last year's soton and will compete for a Europe spot. Cl isn't out of the question with some run good either.

Yes it is

Will have whatever Palace CL odds you're offering

08-27-2015 , 04:04 PM

#7220

PNHH

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Utd's schedule was very easy compared to others'. But Aguero will prob get his spot though. Perhaps Giroud, Kane or Costa/Pedro, but need to look at schedules.

08-27-2015 , 04:04 PM

#7221

MindFckr

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I'd bet Palace no cl up to 500...(not trying to snipe action, just getting in on it if ducksauce is feeling frisky)

08-27-2015 , 04:23 PM

#7222

DuckSauce

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Palace around 70:1 to finish top 4 you sure you want that sort of exposure?

08-27-2015 , 04:23 PM

#7223

LFC_USA

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LOL Ducksauce

08-27-2015 , 04:26 PM

#7224

DuckSauce

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LFC_USA

LOL Ducksauce

08-27-2015 , 04:30 PM

#7225

LFC_USA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckSauce

Crystal Palace are not making the Champions League

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