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Here is the study that Raymond Verheijen's company did a few years ago. I haven't read the full article but it talks about results after 2 days rest which is what usually happens in England after Europa games. http://worldfootballacademy.com/wp-c...overy-days.pdf

it's a pretty WOAT study TBH. One of his conclusions:

Quote:

To restore fair play, its author, Raymond Verheijen, is calling upon national leagues, associations and international federations to make a three-day gap between matches mandatory in all fixture scheduling.

So he is actually arguing for the increase in the number of days in a week from 7 to 8?

08-12-2015 , 10:29 AM

#4477

Consty

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How do we think Stoke set up when all available?

Something like?

-----------Diouf------------
Afellay-----Bojan-----Shaqiri

Maybe Arnautovic starting. Looks pretty damn handy to me.

08-12-2015 , 10:30 AM

#4478

MirZolzayn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xXDeuce7Xx

I don't think that really counts as playing him oop when the alternatives are Balotelli and Lambert, it was simply the best option.

disagree, he was so poor as a striker.
Balotelli, Lambert or Borini and Sterling wide would have been way better.

08-12-2015 , 10:37 AM

#4479

xXDeuce7Xx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Consty

How do we think Stoke set up when all available?

Something like?

-----------Diouf------------
Afellay-----Bojan-----Shaqiri

Maybe Arnautovic starting. Looks pretty damn handy to me.

Isn't van Ginkel more of a CAM than CM? Can't imagine a MvG/Adam CM would be all that effective. Seems weird saying it but Stoke really need a couple of DM's.

08-12-2015 , 10:47 AM

#4480

MirZolzayn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xXDeuce7Xx

Isn't van Ginkel more of a CAM than CM? Can't imagine a MvG/Adam CM would be all that effective. Seems weird saying it but Stoke really need a couple of DM's.

MvG/Adam CM was the setup they played Sunday.
To no effect really.

08-12-2015 , 10:48 AM

#4481

Consty

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I think they started with Adam played behind Diouf on Sunday with Whelan and Van Ginkel as the deeper midfield 2.

08-12-2015 , 10:49 AM

#4482

thechef

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Consty

How do we think Stoke set up when all available?

Something like?

-----------Diouf------------
Afellay-----Bojan-----Shaqiri

Maybe Arnautovic starting. Looks pretty damn handy to me.

It seems lightweight for me. Maybe I just can't get my head around Stoke lining up that way and any Stoke lineup without a minimum of 9 brutes just seems off.

Maybe Bojan, Diouf, Shaqiri in a 4-3-3?

08-12-2015 , 12:59 PM

#4483

royalblue

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Consty

How do we think Stoke set up when all available?

Something like?

-----------Diouf------------
Afellay-----Bojan-----Shaqiri

Maybe Arnautovic starting. Looks pretty damn handy to me.

Between Afellay's injury-proneness and other rotation moves, Arnautovic will prob get enough games.

08-12-2015 , 01:01 PM

#4484

CyberShark93

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Charlie Adam most underrated enganche

08-12-2015 , 02:01 PM

#4485

Liverpool

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tall Paul

The clue is in the name.

Spoiler:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elrazor

it's a pretty WOAT study TBH. One of his conclusions:

So he is actually arguing for the increase in the number of days in a week from 7 to 8?

Not really. Just moving games around so that there is a minimum number of rest days before the next game. So a EL team that plays on Thursday would have that weekend's league game moved to Monday. And any CL teams that play on Wed would have their league game on Sunday.

08-12-2015 , 02:04 PM

#4486

Elrazor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Liverpool

...and what happens if after the Monday league game, they have an EL or League cup game that week?

08-12-2015 , 02:08 PM

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Liverpool

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Originally Posted by Elrazor

...and what happens if after the Monday league game, they have an EL or League cup game that week?

No idea. probably would mean a team is playing every 4 days for a while until the fixture pile up cleared.

Would obviously have to have games on Friday's in order to do it.

08-12-2015 , 02:20 PM

#4488

Elrazor

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Also, nowhere in his study does he compare 2 days v 3 days recovery, which is his central argument.

It's always 2 v 3+, or 3 v 4+, so yeah his statistics include games where one team has had 2 days recovery, and the other team 6+ days if they played one game that week.

I would guess this is because 2 days v 3 days is hardly any difference.

08-12-2015 , 02:29 PM

#4489

Consty

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Lol Mourinho.

Basically if a player asks for treatment, the ref won't re-start the game until the player has either been treated on the field or left the field himself. So even if the medics had ignored the ref waving them on, Hazard would've had to go off.

08-12-2015 , 02:40 PM

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I wasn't happy with my medical staff because even if you are a medical doctor or secretary on the bench, you have to understand the game.

I assume he'll be demoting himself now.

08-12-2015 , 03:10 PM

#4491

unwantedguest

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Anyone work in a HR department?

Having issues with my company honouring holiday dates I've booked, basically say I can't take the time off that I both need and am entitled too = no holidays unless the company approve the dates....holiday calendar full up for next 3 years (only a small exaggeration here), with no sign of any free dates becoming available any time soon.

Starting to get well pissed off with the lousy bastards.

What can I do?

08-12-2015 , 03:19 PM

#4492

Cinarocket

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marty not sure about anglo-saxon law but there should be specific labor laws created to prevent the employer from enforcing this. basically employers like to take advantage of employees who don't know much about labor laws and the privileges they're entitled to so i suggest you do some research and if the law is anything like here that should be illegal and i believe any firm with >50 employees has to have sort of HR committee you can address this issue too

08-12-2015 , 03:19 PM

#4493

Hoopie1

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I will try and speak to our HR person tomorrow. That sounds not only out of order but likely to breach some sort of law to me.

08-12-2015 , 03:21 PM

#4494

unwantedguest

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Thanks Cina.

And please do Hoopie.

Manager close to getting his face smashed in

08-12-2015 , 03:23 PM

#4495

sixfour

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If you've booked it and it was improved this seems bang out of order

As an aside, this camera angle in Pompey/Derby is the worst I've ever seen. It's like someone's filming on a phone from the dugout

08-12-2015 , 03:27 PM

#4496

Oxygen

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Yeah, makes it quite hard to watch. From Twitter: Did Portsmouth lower the camera by 10m every time they got relegated?

08-12-2015 , 03:33 PM

#4497

kevin21

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Marty,

Had you the dates booked off, agreed and all? Then they reversed their decision? Have you just started working with them and had these holidays pre booked before starting there?

08-12-2015 , 03:34 PM

#4498

Consty

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Yea I've never seen a camera angle quite like this I don't think.

I don't hate it as a one off.

08-12-2015 , 03:42 PM

#4499

unwantedguest

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Kev I could only book the dates after the last CL draw as I wasn't sure which week we'd be at home. Were never approved at any stage, did get taken out of the calendar without explanation.

Have been here 7 months, only holidays I had were those I booked when I joined the company, even then they didn't pay me for the last 2 days from 11 I'd booked.

They know I have only one hobby and that's going to the football as and when it suits me.

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