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07-15-2015 , 06:33 PM

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lol

07-15-2015 , 06:40 PM

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And in all of those leagues it's inconceivable for a 20 year old to force a move to another team which was my original point

07-15-2015 , 06:41 PM

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That NBA number is about to rise significantly too. I'm actually surprised the margin isn't greater tbh

07-15-2015 , 06:43 PM

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And in all of those leagues it's inconceivable for a 20 year old to force a move to another team which was my original point

free movement of labour tho. Don't think restricted free agency is in any way possible here, or even desirable.

07-15-2015 , 06:46 PM

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No I meant the part about them having it better than us athletes when avg usa salary >>>> football salary except NFL where they play 16 games a season and kill each other and have the worst players union ever. Enes Kanter (who? Exactly) makes more money than like everyone on Liverpool.

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Premier League operating profits decreased slightly, and Deloitte said clubs were operating on "razor thin" margins. Wage costs as a percentage of revenues hit a new high of 71%.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-27667472

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While player payroll accounted for over 50% of league revenues in all three sports back in 2001, today players in MLB, the NFL and the NBA are all receiving less than 43% of their respective league’s overall revenues.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-mlbpa-has-a-problem/

07-15-2015 , 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LFC_USA

That NBA number is about to rise significantly too.

wait to see what happens now that stoke can pay more than inter

07-15-2015 , 06:57 PM

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I'm sure most fans would support a rise in ticket prices and TV subscription fees to contribute towards the plight of underpaid players. Say 20%?

The clubs are already maximising revenues by extracting every ounce of value they can from the fans. The only question is who ends up with it.

Dont let the owners of capital turn workers against each other.

07-15-2015 , 06:58 PM

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wait to see what happens now that stoke can pay more than inter

Looking forward to players refusing to play for their current clubs to force their dream move to stoke city

07-15-2015 , 07:06 PM

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any have a guess at what the revenue/salary split is in the BPL and various other Euro football leagues?

the NA leagues are all about 50/50, which is why the NBAers are making so much these days
(big money + small rosters = $$$)

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And in all of those leagues it's inconceivable for a 20 year old to force a move to another team which was my original point

good point!

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07-15-2015 , 07:07 PM

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Lol no

*it's inconceivable for a 20 year old under contract to force a move to another club

07-15-2015 , 07:09 PM

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american system is just lolbad
not sure why you even bring it up as comparison

07-15-2015 , 07:12 PM

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any have a guess at what the revenue/salary split is in the BPL and various other Euro football leagues?

its been between 60-70% over the last 10 years, will dip quite a bit when the btvditw hits but i expect it to creep up again

btw its probably not too bad playing basketball in bumble****ville when you're getting paid the same base salary as the similarly talented bloke in new york. this obv doesnt happen in football.

07-15-2015 , 07:15 PM

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Did it already here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=930

The percentage might by higher in some other leagues where everyone is broke all the time and owners are a little less profit-minded, but otoh there'll be less oil-$$$ elsewhere too.

07-15-2015 , 07:20 PM

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Did it already here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=930

thanks

yeah the figures are skewed by the clubs that dgaf about balancing their books

but ppl love the system where City & Chelsea can spend whatever the want, right?

07-15-2015 , 07:39 PM

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not rly that big a difference

NBA £2.7m
IPL (cricket) £2.5m
MLB £2.4m
PL £2.3m
NHL £1.5m
NFL £1.2m

The average salary in the IPL is really £2.5m/year?

07-15-2015 , 07:42 PM

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Yes the more I think about it how is the average nba salary only ~$4m/yr

07-15-2015 , 07:43 PM

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thats what google told me

07-15-2015 , 07:44 PM

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Yes the more I think about it how is the average nba salary only ~$4m/yr

what are 7th/8th/9th/10th blokes getting paid

07-15-2015 , 07:45 PM

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Yes the more I think about it how is the average nba salary only ~$4m/yr

yeah - that seems a little odd, but I suppose there are plenty of guys who are 9-12 on their squads who are making league minimum. not sure if that really compensates for those on the max, but w/e.

the ipl salaries seem crazy high given that there must be many guys filling the bench

07-15-2015 , 07:51 PM

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AFAIK the mid level exception is the league avg salary, and this years MLE is ~$5.5m. BAIDS with the rare misstep.

07-15-2015 , 07:52 PM

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what are 7th/8th/9th/10th blokes getting paid

you can have only 15 players on your roster and the cap is 69M this year.

So average salary of 4.6M.

But then often teams end up having the rights of more than 15 players that they're keeping for their upside but aren't good enough to play in the 15men roster. Those people are usually really cheap like <1M year

07-15-2015 , 07:58 PM

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ok - well you link to an article in the grauniad, but I really just don't believe that IPL players are averaging £2.5m/year. Maybe if you multiplied their contracts for the 6 week long league by 52/6 ???

no - ok - I'm looking at articles on the web that the salary cap for IPL teams in 2013 & 2014 was about $12.5m - so I think that guardian article is way off for the IPL at least [edit] if that had been a true salary

07-15-2015 , 07:59 PM

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looks like the IPL number is pro-rata

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Originally Posted by some indian website

According to the inaugural Annual Review of Global Sports Salaries to be published later this week by sportingintelligence.com, the second highest-paid league, based on first-team salaries on a pro-rata basis, is our very own IPL.

07-15-2015 , 08:02 PM

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looks like the IPL number is based on a pro-rata basis (the thing only lasts 6 weeks)

ok - so that's basically not a useful figure because the players sure as hell can't make those numbers the remaining 46 weeks

07-15-2015 , 08:03 PM

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yea seems a weird methodology

guess the blokes that published it probably got a load of media coverage in india for putting ipl up there. smart cos i read once that there's upwards of 100m people living there

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