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Originally Posted by powder_8s
I agree that LBJ has the best skill set.
I think we both agree pure skills are only 1 or the requirements to be the GOAT. You have to be able to elevate your game and your team in the biggest games. You need to have leadership and make "everyone around you better." You need to push the expectations and standards of future players way beyond what any past players ever dreamed of.
Can you tell me how you can determine this? Like do you have the ability to tell which players are elevating other players or are you purely using results which can lead to a lot of noise when it comes to whether players are making other players better or that they just have better teammates. If you look at Jordans stats, they really don't get that much better after years 3 and 4, but his teammates definitely got better over time. Was it really Jordan elevating them or was it his teammates either improving?
Basically you are giving some BS arguments of why some people win and others don't. When it typically comes down to which team has the best overall talent, matchups, injuries and chemistry which is typically not always dependent on the alpha dog. Duncan, like Jordan, were extremely fortunate to be in great situations for the prime of their career much of which had little to do with their level of play. Like other "non winners" they could have been put on teams with little chance to win a title and effectively lived in infamy. While I love to believe certain players elevate their team to titles, I think that type of thing can't easily be determined. What can more easily be determined in an individual's level of play.