btw i bet most of the people saying mcnabb should've known this and all the players are having parties when the playoffs start are the same people that get all upset when a guy from their team goes to the rival's team.

'how could he do that!!'

edit: it's not a basic rule but w/e. my comparison of games that end in ties or are suspended by curfews in baseball was similar.

Dude I'm not defending him not knowing the rule, I'm just arguing that the assumption that college and nfl players watch football all the time is wrong.

We know everything about football because we love the game and watch it all the time, while a lot of players simply play football to earn a living. It's a big difference and weird that you guys can't see this.

That being said it's weird to not see this being shocking at all. 10-year veteran who is the team leader and has played in many overtime games in his career where this is stated before the coin toss every time. It's hard to believe that he has never looked at the standings during his career or football playing lifetime.

If we were to take a poll before this happened asking whether or not Mcnabb knew a game could end in a tie what do you think the results would be. This is definitely not standard at all.

Somebody else added that Mcnabb faced the 10-6-1 Falcons 2002 playoffs lol.

ok like everybody else I can't stay away.

I get that this is McNabb's job and perhaps not his passion.

but do you know what I'm expected to know about my job? every ****ing thing that could effect me and my business and 100 things I haven't thought of. and if I don't get I **** **** for it. or worse.

my job isn't my passion either. I do it to make a living. but I sure as hell know basic **** about what's going on b/c if I didn't I wouldn't be capable of doing a very good job.

McNabb should know the rules, and know that there is only one overtime. Him having to know this isn't based on how much football he watches, or how much he cares about the sport, it's based on the fact he has made over 50 million dollars from his profession and he should know something so basic.

Triumph and Franchise are onto something though. I'm a forum posting professional, and when I'm not posting in forums I'm certainly not reading them.

Is he going out for the coin toss for OT to hear it?

That's because you're only sleeping otherwise.

Just throwing my two cents in here...

I know the sentiment has died down over the last page or so, but to say it doesn't affect the gameplay is a pretty bad thing to say. It doesn't really matter all that much if I didn't watch the game, the mentality changes.

This rule isn't obscure imo. There's only one overtime and considering a tie can be the outcome of a game, it's something that should be known by the players. Imo, I can't see any excuses for not knowing this.

I don't know how much players watch games in their off time, but I don't know why this is getting so much attention. I guess this goes back to me thinking everyone should know this rule, regardless of their exposure. I'd imagine they got to watch a lot of football either in their college days or previous, if not currently.

I was actually surprised to read that no ties have occurred since 2002, I thought there would be have been more, but oh well...that's getting offtopic.

i know this may be shocking to many of you, but NFL players are often selected and paid based on their athletic abilities moreso than their knowledge of the NFL rulebook.

The captains come out for the coin toss, so I assume McNabb was there for most, if not all, of them.

mcnabb = palin imo

sigh.....it's not some weird obscure rule that you would find in the back of the rulebook. it's a simple clear cut rule that is is announced at the beginning of every OT game. also it's in the freaking standings............

Okay I just looked at all of Mcnabb's OT games because I was bored. The latest he ever had the ball in OT was a game where they kicked the winning field goal with 5 minutes left. Every other game wasn't close to being a tie, so his lack of knowledge didn't effect any of his previous games.

In this weekends game IIRC the last play of OT was Mcnabb throwing a hail mary pass into the endzone.

So yea, much ado about nothing imo.

how many baseball players would you say know the infield fly rule?

how many baseball players, as a result of the language barrier, cannot understand some of the more obscure rules or the more complex directives their manager is giving them?

and all this 'the ref says it before every OT game' - who do you think is listening to that? mcnabb is probably trying to figure out how best to beat the opposing defense, not adequately considering each rule the ref is laying out.

And he didn't know there was only 1 OT until that play was called. Initially, I was in the "meh, it's funny but not a big deal camp," and while I don't think it's a huge deal, I can see the argument as to how it could have changed how he played or took chances in previous drives.

[QUOTE=Cinch;7181257] Why is this not the bottom line even though it is considered trolling by that special breed of homie on here? Obviously there's not a lot practical value to strategizing between accepting tie or risk taking for W in waning minutes of OT games, but it raises the larger question of being a competent student of the game.

exactly, it's just the quarterback for a popular NFL team, who cares if he doesn't know basic rules?

the infield fly rule is much more complicated imo. I got a detail wrong about it this year, and many casual fans probably couldn't explain it exactly right.

the fact that there is a Tie column in the standings is something that almost all casual fans recognize.

language barrier is much different than willfull ignorance

again, this is as much - or more - on Reid as it's on McNabb.

yeah there's just this crazy assumption that the player might figure out the basic rules and maybe listen to the officials one of the half-dozen or so times it was stated that there's only one period of OT

honestly it's not the end of the world, just looks terrible and is an example of why that team will not be making the playoffs

I looked at the pbp and didn't see any plays that could have been effected by his lack of knowledge of tieaments.

First off I am still in my playing days but just had to take a year off from injury. Now I do this because I love the game not any other reason. Now I see it all the time someone still holding to that pipe dream of getting to the next level but not me. I am 31 and just love to play. I had opportunities to move on and they didn't work out. But that being said maybe that is why I am different than the next guy. I love to watch as much football as possible because I love it that much. I even ref high school games and pee wee games and different semi pro games (this year).

Now there are some guys who do the madden thing all day, and some (like me) who watch alot of football. I have a couple friends who are like me, they still play (and are older than me), coach, and just do other things to stay involved in the game. I mean there are NFL players who play fantasy football.

So yes there are some guys who can't get enough and some guys who just don't care when they are in their off days.

LOL

LOL

And i am from Europe

ties: you don't think it can happen to you

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