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Originally Posted by Dudd
Hmm, except for the length, sounds like Gladwell.
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
lol thats exactly what I had in mind when I wrote that
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
I think Phone Booth needs to read "Fooled by Randomness."
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Originally Posted by vhawk01
Man, thats a MUCH better comparison than Gladwell, thats EXACTLY who PB reminds me of. In basically every way.
It's hilarious that I'm being compared to best-selling authors as some kind of an insult. Either way, I think his point was that Taleb's book contradicts what I was saying. Our viewpoints couldn't be further apart. Taleb is always talking about how everyone is doing it all wrong - I'm talking about how everyone is doing it all right. He's generally right when he's talking about the unknowability of things, but appears completely oblivious about the fact that decisions have to be made. Taleb largely bases his arguments on the fact that people say stupid stuff. And on tasks that our intuition isn't trained for, we do stupid stuff. But human competence can't be judged by human communication alone. There's no reason for our beliefs or statements to be correct - what does correctness even mean? - they merely need to facilitate advantageous behavior. Nor can human competence be judged by our incompetence at tasks that we haven't learned how to perform.
It's interesting, then, that most of you are jeering at the "incorrectness" of journalists, casual fans, etc, as though that is the criteria by which human communication is judged, yet when questioned, are willing to acknowledge that you don't care about correctness - what matters to you are whether people are being nice to you, whether people are framing things in ways you can understand (willie25), whether engaging in this particular conversation is EV (Thremp), whether the conversation is entertaining - in short, the metrics by which conventional sports bar talk is largely superior to the sports statnerd analysis you worship. When outnerded, you're just as likely as the sports bar drunk to want to change the context away from discussion about correctness.
Thremp - because he's so transparently self-conscious - demonstrates this well. When he notices people who are wrong in ways that enable him to tell them how wrong they are (so that he can pwn or whatever), the argument is about correctness. When this isn't possible, either due to his limited rhetorical skills, poor initial argument, etc (he enjoys "pwning" far too much for this to ever be a matter of motivation), he whines about everything else, as though the correctness of his statement is immaterial at this point. If I'm wrong about this, what explains the harshness on Steven Segal's Dad and Shoe?