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07-15-2019 , 10:56 AM
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Super ball imo
Regular super over then Big Bash countback sudden death super over and then super ball. Gives everyone a chance to put a partnership together but gets the job done.
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07-15-2019 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DTD
Obv NZ were unlucky (can you ever be unlucky if you lose a game that's basically a coin flip?), but if it didn't rain in the group match against India then there is a very good chance that they wouldn't have made the top four.

Also, re Bolt and boundary catches - if he didn't take that blinder (under the circumstances) against the WI then they likely wouldn't have made the semis either.
And let's face it too we have seen some shocking fielding mistakes from Boult (we have seen some great fielding too btw) in the tournament so it wasn't all that surprising to me that he made that blunder.
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07-15-2019 , 06:41 PM
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Who hit the most boundaries is a dumb rule but most wickets in hand is equally dumb - England would have played their last 2 balls differently if they knew that finishing 241/10 was different from finishing 241/8 - and, say team 1 gets 245/7 off 50 overs and team 2 gets 246/9 off 50 but was 244/7 off 49, them should team 1 win. Nah, of course not.

The reality though is that both teams knew that a tied super over would give England the win. Likewise, with wickets in hand as a deciding factor, both teams would know that a tied super over would give NZ the win. It was won on the field - get the run and NZ win, get the run out and England win. England deserved the win.

Better though would be that the only thing that can break the tie is something that actually happens in the tiebreak. Have a regular super over. Then, if it’s tied, have a Big Bash T20 style super over where there is count back if it’s still tied and it goes to the score after 5 balls, then 4, etc. Much like penalties followed by sudden death in football - but we don’t have to change the fielding and batting teams every 30 seconds. It’s not rocket science.
It should be like play offs for golf that they just keep having holes after holes until a player wins by a stroke for a hole. Cricket world cups should continue to have super overs until a victor. I mean the likelihood of another tie is so minor that they should keep playing on because after all this is the world cup.
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07-16-2019 , 12:49 AM
Guppy was chosen mostly because he’s one of the fastest runners in WC. Hence him being at the non strikers end. Yes he’s been out of form but showed glimpses in his last 2 innings. I think it’s the right call as was Neesh

I hate “shared trophies” but this was a legitimate case of being the right result

Imagine if the losing team was India/Pak/WI/SL/Bangles. This would be a white man conspiracy and the Franz Ferdinand of WW3 Cricket:  Random Discussion Thread
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07-16-2019 , 09:25 AM
I'd think I'd rather anything to a shared trophy to be honest, but I understand the point. They need to find a champ and so long as you don't change the rules on the day nobody can claim anything dodgy, even if they can claim that a crappy rule was in place.

As I've said before, if you can't play any longer then splitting by position in the group phase is fairer imo and would probably cause less of an issue. Had NZ finished higher in the group then I'd be more pissed off if I was a Kiwi, though of course we don't know how it would have played out anyway even then (eg maybe Archer would have gone for that run-out on the fifth ball, tried a different line etc, who knows).
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07-16-2019 , 04:10 PM
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Guppy was chosen mostly because he’s one of the fastest runners in WC. Hence him being at the non strikers end. Yes he’s been out of form but showed glimpses in his last 2 innings. I think it’s the right call as was Neesh

I hate “shared trophies” but this was a legitimate case of being the right result

Imagine if the losing team was India/Pak/WI/SL/Bangles. This would be a white man conspiracy and the Franz Ferdinand of WW3 Cricket:  Random Discussion Thread
The whole of cricket has been in favour of India for going on for a decade now.
I’m surprised they didn’t call it a tie and make up a rule that meant that the trophy went to India for finishing top of the table.
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07-16-2019 , 05:13 PM
Was it here I read that the boundaries rule was introduced because that’s the rule in the IPL? Can anyone verify that ?
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07-16-2019 , 07:05 PM
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Was it here I read that the boundaries rule was introduced because that’s the rule in the IPL? Can anyone verify that ?
Well that wouldn't surprise me given the influence India have on the ICC with the money that India brings the game. Also gives them a distinct advantage given that India are renowned for hitting boundaries rather than running between the wickets and accumulating runs that way. Cricket:  Random Discussion Thread
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07-16-2019 , 08:40 PM
What % of IPL matches go to Super Over & what % of them go to boundaries scored?
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07-17-2019 , 08:20 AM
Theres never been a tied super over in IPL AFAIK
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07-17-2019 , 09:13 AM
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What % of IPL matches go to Super Over & what % of them go to boundaries scored?
So far, there have been nine super overs and only one of that ended in a tied super over.

Rajasthan Royals needed 3 to win the Super over and 2 to tie.

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When everyone expected a boundary from Smith, he had some other smart plans in his mind. He knew that since RR had hit more boundaries in the game, even if they could tie the scores, RR will be adjudged the winners.

Smith pushed the last ball from Narine towards the extra-cover region and took the calmest of doubles to make the team victorious without taking any risks. James Faulkner was adjudged the Man of the Match for his impressive bowling in the main game and super-over. This was one of the best super-over games in T20 cricket where 42 overs couldn’t determine the better team.
IPL Super Over Tied Match 2014 RR vs KKR - https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/...in-ipl-history

No. of Super Overs in IPL - https://sportzwiki.com/cricket/list-...r-overs-in-ipl

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07-17-2019 , 09:19 AM
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Well that wouldn't surprise me given the influence India have on the ICC with the money that India brings the game. Also gives them a distinct advantage given that India are renowned for hitting boundaries rather than running between the wickets and accumulating runs that way.
Do you have any stats to back this statement?
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07-17-2019 , 09:59 AM
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What % of IPL matches go to Super Over & what % of them go to boundaries scored?
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So far, there have been nine super overs and only one of that ended in a tied super over.

Rajasthan Royals needed 3 to win the Super over and 2 to tie.

IPL Super Over Tied Match 2014 RR vs KKR - https://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/...in-ipl-history

No. of Super Overs in IPL - https://sportzwiki.com/cricket/list-...r-overs-in-ipl
Thanks. ~60 matches per IPL * 12 IPLs --> 720 matches. 1/80 went to a Super Over & it's unlikelier in 50 over matches.
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07-17-2019 , 11:10 AM
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i hope they ban pakistan indefinitely from cricket. putting cricket to shame. this thing has gone on too much with pakistan. i hope these mother****ers die if this is proven.

crickets going to be interesting tom when kamran and the two bowlers bat, theres been quite a bit of talk aready this match but i don't know how england will react to this.

i mean i can see asif doing this because of his history and akmal because hes obviously a dick but why would you influence a sensationally talented 18 year old into cheating
Pakistan Cricket is at its best for opportunist presented unpredictability....
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07-17-2019 , 12:08 PM
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Do you have any stats to back this statement?
Only Surav Ganguly's tenure as Indian captain
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07-19-2019 , 07:24 AM
Haha it's a great headline, but anybody can be nominated by anyone so it's just clickbait
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07-20-2019 , 05:35 PM
If i were in charge...

Winner of the coin toss could choose bat first, field first or pass the choice to the coin toss loser and win if its a tie. If they choose bat or field, other team wins if its a tie.

No reasonable overtime will be sufficient to declare a winner of a 50 over match and winning the coin toss provides a clear unearned edge.
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07-22-2019 , 05:55 PM
If you really want to be optimal then could have a sealed bid or perhaps English auction where you have to pay X runs for privilege of deciding whether to bat or bowl first. The toss always swings some % on betfair which I agree is an unfair edge to get.
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07-23-2019 , 02:03 AM
If nothing else, when it comes to bilateral series, a coin toss is only necessary for the first match (and last match assuming an odd number of matches).

If England wins the toss they choose for the first match, Aussie chooses for the 2nd etc...

I can't think of another sport where a coin toss shifts the line as it does in cricket.

NZ got screwed in a few different ways in the final, but they also clearly benefited from batting first.
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07-24-2019 , 06:53 AM
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10.4 overs
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Burns c Wilson b Murtagh 6 (Eng 36-3)

My WORD.
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07-24-2019 , 07:09 AM
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12.4 overs
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Bairstow b Murtagh 0 (Eng 42-5)

THROUGH THE GATE!
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07-24-2019 , 07:13 AM
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13 overs
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Woakes lbw b Murtagh 0 (Eng 42-6)

Umpire's call! Chris Woakes has to go!
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07-24-2019 , 07:20 AM
Getting the embarrassing collapse out of the way before the Ashes i see. Great thinking from England.
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07-24-2019 , 07:29 AM
Australia doing the same in their warmup.

4D chess
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