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Originally Posted by Exothermic
You clearly don't watch the sport if you think that, just because one trains mma doesn't mean their a jack of all trades. MMA has evolved to where there are different approaches for everyone, some guys are good at everything but not gr8 at anything such as Kenny Florian before he retired, while others like chael sonnen sucks at everything but wrestling, which he's elite at. Alot of guys pretty much know they have a affinity to either grappling or striking & mainly train that & then use the other forms of fighting just to be compenent enough at it to where they can use their strengths to exloit their opponent weakness.
Let me give you examples;
- Khabib= elite wrestler, decent bjj, horrible striker.
- joana champion= elite striker, good defensive wrestler & no bjj
- Conor= meh wrestler & bjj but awesome striking
- nate/nick diaz= non existent wrestling, gr8 bjj + boxing(their kickboxing sucks, they only box n bjj n nothing else)
MMA is a game where you can try to train all arts equally & be competent in all forms & make that your style & find success or be unequal with your approach & try to use that 1 style you dominate with to be your main asset & train the other aspects just enough.
Again i say, overeem freaking went from mma and won the k1 heavyweight grand prix which is a kickboxing tournament featuring the best kickboxers in the world, i swear some people so ignorant to mma.
I mean, you caught me, I've never actually watched a UFC card and I don't know who this "Khabib" is, but I'm still pretty sure that expecting a guy who trains partially in one discipline to overcome someone else that trains solely in that discipline is #1 bull****.
Kirby already gave the right answer on the last page:
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
boxing is probably the only one where there are top tier superstars who only have boxing as their main income and train all day just for that.
Other competitions I'm pretty sure the MMA fighters train in them just as much as the top guys in those
Let's say you're a great in something like Combat Sambo. Can you name the best/biggest Sambo promotion in the world, because I can't. Maybe there are guys out there making 30 million for one Sambo fight (match?) but I doubt it.
A guy who's awesome at Sambo probably goes to the UFC if possible, because that's where the money is.
The problem is that for guys good at boxing, Boxing is where the money is. You aren't going to see guys that could be elite boxers going to the UFC right now because the pay cut is too steep. I misspoke when I referenced the other disciplines because I forgot that outside of Muay Thai, there isn't any money in top level stuff (and even MT is stretching it).
Doesn't alter the point tho: In a competition in one specific discipline, a guy that has worked at that one particular thing is at a massive advantage to a guy that's worked partially on that thing while training others.
If there existed a BJJ competition that paid more than $50,000 for it's World Title (seriously, BJJ tourney pay is god awful), then the guy that won would either be Damian Maia, or someone that would be a huge favorite over Maia. As it stands, there's no money in BJJ (everyone's guard is solid) so they go to Japan or the UFC>