Some of you are a step slower than Conor.

Have any of you touting a CM knockout seen Floyd fight?

Never because he's a boxer

Now it all makes sense. Load up on CM, he's gonna knock Floyd's head off!!!!!

I feel bad for anyone paying 100$ to watch a woman beating, illiterate midget tip tap olympic style a MMA fighter into a UD victory. For that price someone better have brain damage at the end of it all. Watching Italy catenaccioing their way into the WC final seems like a Cirque du Soleil premiere night in comparison.

I miss the days when boxing PPV's were worth the money. Case in point:

I guess they assume that since CM could literally murder him in a street fight in 30 sec or less then it somehow transfers to boxing.

If Conor gets lucky I'm just going to have to take my medicene. Just can't see a way in which that happens short of another fan man incident that also saws his hands off.

Definitely this. For $100 those little ****s better turn each other into hamburger meat.

This! I don't want to see a Manny vs. Floyd type fight for $100. I don't see Mcgregor letting that happen, I think he is going to keep the pressure on Floyd, but it shall remain to be seen how that turns out for him. Hopefully, it forces Floyd to throw more punches, and be less defensive. I don't think Conor respects Floyd's punching power at all, and will get in there and try to land some big shots. After getting tagged for a few rounds though, he may change his strategy.

It is hard to predict this fight, I have gone back and forth between what I think the most likely outcome will be, but I definitely think Conor has more than a 0% chance of winning. That is just ludicrous to say IMO, even with him having no professional boxing history. He is a fighter and a damn good one. All it takes is one moment where Floyd's guard is down, and Conor lands a big shot. The chances of that happening are low, but I'd give him maybe a 5%-10% chance. Aside from that, he is not going to out box Floyd Mayweather, and if he doesn't KO him early, Floyd will run away with the fight pretty easily. I just hope it is at least entertaining.

I still haven't placed any bets, but that -500 for FM is pretty enticing, but so are some of the prop bets. I just wonder why bettors with huge bank rolls, aren't laying 6 figures + on FM considering the majority believe this will be a "Sure Thing". Maybe closer to the fight, the odds will swing back closer to where they should be, but I would think at these odds some people would be all over it. Although, Conor is clearly the fan favorite, so I'm sure most casual fight fans are placing small bets on CM which is the reason for the odds. On my social media pages, I have not seen one person that is rooting for Floyd, and many that think Conor will defeat him. They see what he has done in the octagon, and think that will translate into the same results in a boxing ring.

I have some bets with friends in the works, so if those go through, then I really can't lose regardless of the outcome. So hoping that works out, and then I can basically get a freeroll and hopefully make some decent $.

FAN MAN

2:05

I watched the Pac fight and then went and googled his Canelo fight when everyone kept saying Conor wouldn't even land a punch to see what everyone else supposedly knew that I didn't

I am not trying to troll boxing fans because everyone likes what they like but boxing is boring to me. That this is a boxing match instead of a fight certainly takes away a little of the luster to me. Boxing is just one of the many disciplines in MMA. Conor going down to boxing to have a match with Floyd feels like if LeBron went and dropped passing, defense, dunking, and many other facets of his game to go have a 3 point contest with someone who only does 3 point contests and isn't a true basketball player.

The problem with this analogy is that it implies MMA is a highest form of combat sports, and there's nothing to make me believe that's true.

I like boxing and MMA, but the best MMA guys are most likely not going to beat the best boxers, muay thai guys, kick boxers, or BJJists. It's a Jack-of-all-Trades vs. master of one issue.

That's the bigger problem for MMA imo, and what's kept it from ever being really mainstream: it's too sloppy.

Boxing/wrestling/etc are "clean" in the sense that they're relatively easy to follow (BJJ less so that other combat sports), and restrict the focus to a few things (i.e. fists, holds). In MMA there are all sorts of variables and attacks that cause the whole package to see sloppier and harder to follow.

That's going to change as the sport evolves, but we've had wrestling and boxing around for 100+ years. It wasn't until 25 years ago that someone said "**** it, toss them all in there and see what happens" and even more recently that people started training as complete MMAists, not just boxers that learned to wrestler or BJJists that learned to Kickbox.

a lot of MMA fighters who havent competed in BJJ tournaments have crushed them once they started competing

boxing is probably the only one where there are top tier superstars who only have boxing as their main income and train all day just for that.

Other competitions I'm pretty sure the MMA fighters train in them just as much as the top guys in those

CM knocked out in sparring
Shocker.

Meh, rumors like that are going to pop up everywhere between now and the fight. Not saying it's not true, but everything has to come with a grain of salt.

Oh, I agree. I'm just in awe of the ignorance surrounding this fiasco, though I guess I shouldn't be.

Lol. This is 2+2. Ignorance is pretty standard here.

MMA is the highest form of combat sports because it is the one that is by far the closest to actual combat. It is artificial but it is as close to a real fight as we can get without people dying or being badly hurt regularly. Boxing is so absurdly artificial that I wouldn't even call it a fight. Of course MMA guys aren't going to beat guys who specialize (I expect Mayweather to absolutely clown McGregor) but I find the combat sports that only focus on one tiny aspect of fighting unbearable to watch because they aren't fighting. They aren't even CLOSE to fighting usually.

This is spot on.

I will say, however, boxing translates really well into a street fight as long as no grabbing occurs. Once that or ground fighting occurs boxers have no idea what to do, because they don't train for that. Boxers are strikers and will lose to grapplers. As long as a skilled grappler doesn't get knocked out before he can close distance, he will almost assuredly always win in a no-rules contest.

In an environment like a boxing ring with a judge, a skilled boxer is unbeatable except against a kickboxer, who has a chance, because they use boxing skills so heavily.

This is why Rhonda Rousey confused me so much. She's not a striker and got knocked out trying to outstrike strikers. Pure stupidity.

Why is being "by far the closest to actual combat" a good thing? Have you ever seen a real fight? It's an ugly, uncoordinated mess. Guys throwing haymakers and tumbling over each other.

Even at it's highest level (UFC most likely) it's still ugly very often. Watch Nate Diaz wing sloppy punch after sloppy punch at Conor in the 2nd round of their 1st fight. Yeah, he hits that 1-2 and it looks wonderful, but most of the punches after that are just all over the place. Diaz is, by almost every account, a skilled boxer, but in that MMA environment, even his punches look gross.

MMA is a tough sell to newer guys for just that reason (and the UFC's PPV numbers with fighters not named McGregor and Rousey speak to this). How many times have you heard the objection that MMA "is just two dudes humping one another". Yeah it's tired and wrong, but BJJ is hard to grasp at a high level. It's never hard to grasp two guys punching each other, and because they don't have to worry about anything else, their form is usually clear to the viewer.

interesting discussion... for those who don't watch much boxing, mayweather is completely boring amateur style boxing. he's gaming the scoring system by basically throwing no combos and few power shots. but he never gets hit in any significant way and that's by the best boxers on earth..

is there a huge penalty if CM goes off-script in the fight? i would think it would be too expensive but it would wildly newsworthy. obviously i don't mean literally there's a script just that it's meant to be boxing match...

here's a forerunner of boxing vs. non-boxing. more so the entertainment as it's obviously fake even though cosell kayfabes... hadn't seen this but have seen inoki/wepner and ali/inoki.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkoUgdl9sSA

the guy fighting ali died in the last couple of weeks. that's how i saw this.... also, a youtube video with ali vs. kenny "sodbuster" jay. but no howard cosell.. i remember the "sodbuster" well. he got the nickname cause he did landscaping for verne gagne.

The problem with boxing is the "best" fighters are boring due to their defense. The "exciting" boxers are offensive fighters, who wind up with brain damage at 32.

None of this applies to Roy Jones Jr, the greatest pure boxing talent of a lifetime, who somehow had both.

Yeah, it's rare that there are boxers that can put on amazing shows and not end up getting beat up a few times.

I'm worried that, given the time since his peak, some people might've forgot: