Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th)

06-30-2017 , 02:18 PM
He's just a man I don't care how good his defense is. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperSwag
Haven't placed any bets yet lol. Here's what I came up with and it has nothing to do with Conor. Freddy Roach was told that Floyd hasn't trained since the Berto fight. This fight is longest gap in his career without training. Need to rewatch the clip but pretty sure that's what he said.

Second, Conor is a counter puncher. Apparently Floyd hasn't fought many opponents like this. If I recall he's only fought 2 counter punchers.

Add in his age and his brittle hands and the fight will be interesting. Not betting Conor straight up obv, I might do Conor to win and Floyd in Round 2 or 3. Feel free to LOL at me and bet your net worth on Floyd.
Canelo thought he would counter Floyd too and we saw how that turned it out. No one in the world is gonna counter Floyd . Marquez maybe the best counter puncher in the world got demolished by Floyd . Granted he was ****ed by weight in that fight but it was a catastrophe and Jmm is amazing as seen by his pacquiao fights
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 02:38 PM
So this 40 yr old midget is just invincible I guess
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wil318466
I'm unsure if this is a joke or not. Floyd's defense is masterful, he knows exactly where to step and how to backup to put his opponents in a disadvantage. Boxing is difficult to understand if you don't know what you are looking at. I suspect you don't understand what you are looking at.

Boxing isn't about punching, it never has been. It's about not getting hit. Any idiot can be taught how to throw a punch. The problem is the target won't be there if your opponent knows what they are doing.

Watch Tyson's fights before he went to jail. Better footwork, better head movement. Got hit less. After he came out it was just a matter of time before he got rocked. He just got hit too damn much.



The nature of the two disciplines requires different approaches. Boxing requires balance and very specific footwork. The way to hold your hands when boxing is by imagine holding a shotgun aiming at someone's head. That's approximately where your hands should be. Your lead foot forward back foot narrow back. There is variance, of course, like the way Tyson would stand peekaboo and wider. MMA requires a wider stance because they are worried about leg strikes and leg takedowns.

The very nature of the two are wildly different. Mayweather doesn't have to adjust, he's going to do what he's been doing his whole life. Connor has to learn how to be a world class boxer in months.

Boxing requires a complete breakdown of what you instinctively know to do as a human being. You pivot and switch body weight in an unnatural technique. Even throwing a simple left hook correctly takes years of practice. Shifting weight from left to right and pivoting your left foot and whipping your energy through your body is much, much harder to do than anyone would think it is.

I don't see how Connor can make all these things instinctive in such a short amount of time. When he gets rocked, which he will, he won't even know how to buy time to recover by creating distance and clinching when needed. The example of Mayweather doing that after Mosley tagged him is a perfect example. Connor won't be able to do what Mayweather knows to do by instinct.

MacGregor is in deep trouble here.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 02:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mutigers
Canelo thought he would counter Floyd too and we saw how that turned it out. No one in the world is gonna counter Floyd . Marquez maybe the best counter puncher in the world got demolished by Floyd . Granted he was ****ed by weight in that fight but it was a catastrophe and Jmm is amazing as seen by his pacquiao fights
Yeah, his *****-making JMM should be enough to dispel the whole "can't fight a counter puncher" stuff

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kowabunghole
So this 40 yr old midget is just invincible I guess
He's the closest to that since Sweet Pea
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RT
Yeah, his *****-making JMM should be enough to dispel the whole "can't fight a counter puncher" stuff



He's the closest to that since Sweet Pea
Sweet pea now vs conor is probably closer than conor vs floyd.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 03:12 PM
Floyd is always aware of the clock. Pretty sure every time he's been put in corner it is almost always near the end of the round and he gets out of it.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kowabunghole
So this 40 yr old midget is just invincible I guess
Has been so far, after august 26th he will be 49-1 & won't be looked at the same.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kowabunghole
So this 40 yr old midget is just invincible I guess
He's getting old so there's a slight possibility he could get his ass kicked by someone like canello at this point. Age slows every man down but there have been surprising examples like Bernard Hopkins who seems to defy time. Still, in the end it even caught up with him.

Floyd isn't unbeatable, and I never want to say anything in sport is ever a "lock", but this single event may be the biggest lock I've ever personally come across. I've never been so sure about anything in my life - Mayweather is going to beat the piss out of MacGregor. The only slight possibility is if Mayweather has it in his mind to "make it look good" and showboat so they could somehow do a Mayweather/McGregor 2 and he actually let's Connor hit him. I really doubt that scenario, though.

Betting McGregor is futile, and betting Mayweather is just not worth it unless you got him at 5-1 or something. My prediction is Mayweather is a stone cold 100% lock, the fight winds up being a complete embarrassment, and they wind up talking about how Mayweather actually hurt the reputation of boxing due to making this such a fiasco and a sham.

And I don't even blame Connor. If they fought in UFC I'd bet McGregor would beat Mayweather senseless. They are both trying to go for a 50 million dollar payday, and I don't begrudge a man for trying to get paid.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by electricladylnd
Sweet pea now vs conor is probably closer than conor vs floyd.
Pernell is 53. I think you're right, Connor / Whitaker would be a better fight. Whitaker was impossible to hit. I think he dipped too low sometimes when he ducked and put himself out of position but he made it work for him. He showboated a lot too. Still, one of my favorites ever.

Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 04:38 PM
That sequence at 2:20 in the corner...my lord
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 05:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kowabunghole
He's just a man I don't care how good his defense is. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face
that's a good point. the problem is that mcgregor won't get to punch floyd in the face.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 05:48 PM
Why not? It's a boxing match. The point is to punch the other guy in the face?
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 06:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kowabunghole
Why not? It's a boxing match. The point is to punch the other guy in the face?
Have you seen any of Floyd Mayweather's fights? Sure he has been hit before, but by professional boxers that have trained their entire life. Even though Conor is dominating in the UFC, that doesn't mean he has some special power that is going to allow him to do anything more than any Boxer FM has faced. I mean if Pacquiao, Canelo, JMM, Mosley, Cotto, Dey La Hoya, Maidana, and 42 others could not beat Floyd, how is a guy that has virtually zero professional boxing experience going to defeat him?

I mean I know Mcgregor has some power and is no doubt an animal in the octagon. But boxing is a completely different sport. Especially with 10 ounce gloves, I just don't see Mcgregor touching Mayweather. He will be swinging at air all night, or FM will finish him in like round 6-8. Who really knows though, Mcgregor is pretty insane, and he does have a punchers chance, but that's about it. I just cannot see Floyd giving him an opportunity to land any kind of power punch. He just is too much of a master at boxing.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kowabunghole
So this 40 yr old midget is just invincible I guess
Would an amateur beat roger Federer in tennis ?
Or any other example like that
Like lebron James vs any basketball amateur ?

It is only possible like in poker for the huge luck factor, I guess because this site is a poker site, that narrative is possible.

If you believe so well just bet on cm, you will make a fortune ...
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 06:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exothermic


Cris cyborg vs 2x gold medalist Olympian & current champ at 165lbs & she held her own. Clarissa even said she thinks is cyborg did 1year of str8 boxing she can be a champ. These are the people you need to compare, not tj dillashaw who is a wrestler & has like 2-3years of muay thai coaching from duane ludwig.

p.s cyborg fights at 145, so she's even the smaller girl.
Is there more money in Women's MMA or Women's Boxing? Boxing is an Olympic sport, but neither have the history of Men's Boxing.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 07:19 PM
Women's mma for sure its not close at all
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 07:25 PM
I watched the Ricky Hatton fight. I could beat that clown up
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 07:59 PM
Female fighting sports, especially boxing, are pretty terrible.

The skill/strength level difference between male and female sports is astonishing.

For example :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...U-15-boys.html

The USA women's football team were convincingly beaten by a team of adolescents in a embarrassing defeat for the world champions.
They were roundly outplayed, losing 5-2 against FC Dallas Under-15s academy side who took full advantage of their big day.


These were teen-aged boys and they beat the woman's national team easily.

Due to the very nature of female sports being, to put it kindly, a joke compared to men's sports, the difference in skill level between athletes is by nature smaller. You can never compare a women's power level to a man, but especially more so in a combat sport like boxing. I know many people talk about Rhonda Rousey but the truth of the matter is she couldn't beat up quite a lot of men. I've had this discussion with some MMA fighters and they assured me she'd get absolutely crushed in a fight against a male amateur.

Last edited by wil318466; 06-30-2017 at 08:16 PM.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 08:31 PM
Females can only compete with males pre puberty, we've seen it in american football etc, once puberty hits males always will be greatly superior. With that said, still doesn't discredit Cris Cyborg level of being dangerous vs top level boxers or kickboxers. Cris Cyborg got ko'd vs champion kickboxer a few years ago but still held her own even though it twas a different sport, i see Conor doing the same vs mayweather except mayweather has brittle hands & no power at this stage to finish the job.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 08:40 PM
I don't get the "Floyd d oesnt have power" stuff. Do people think he's just going to sleep Conor?

He's going to touch him whenever he wants and the accumulation of damage, as well as the body work that will sap his strength, is going to lead to a stoppage.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 08:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RT
I don't get the "Floyd d oesnt have power" stuff. Do people think he's just going to sleep Conor?

He's going to touch him whenever he wants and the accumulation of damage, as well as the body work that will sap his strength, is going to lead to a stoppage.

Floyd had power at like 122lbs or whatever he started fighting at, once he started fighting at like 147lbs or whatever his power didn't translate & his hands kept getting broken. Mayweather also is a guy who fighting weight is a legit 150lbs, Mcgregor is currently 175lbs n lean as confirmed by his boxing coach, probably will be 170lbs on fight night & Mayweather just doesn't have the power to 1punch ko him. Of course in like the 9-10th rnd if conor gasses & mayweather keeps the pressure he can ko him but the problem is mayweather wants the win more than getting the finish as when you open yourself up to ko someone you leave opening to get tagged yourself which is why i doubt mayweather goes for the ko in this fight nor any of his last 10 or so fights he had.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 09:01 PM
When they talk about power many people are talking about one shot knock out power. Mayweather never needed that, he just wears you out and beats you. He doesn't have to ever come in close and let his opponent have a chance, he's never been a brawler because he's never had to be.

Connor will be wide open for Floyd. Floyd will be able to hit Connor at will, and no matter how good of a chin Connor has the accumulation of punches adds up.

I honestly don't see how Floyd doesn't knock him out in the first round, possibly the second round because he dances around and toys with him. If it lasts to the end of 3 rounds I would consider my entire analysis in this thread an utter failure and I may never talk about boxing again, lol.

Last edited by wil318466; 06-30-2017 at 09:06 PM.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 09:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exothermic
Floyd had power at like 122lbs or whatever he started fighting at, once he started fighting at like 147lbs or whatever his power didn't translate & his hands kept getting broken. Mayweather also is a guy who fighting weight is a legit 150lbs, Mcgregor is currently 175lbs n lean as confirmed by his boxing coach, probably will be 170lbs on fight night & Mayweather just doesn't have the power to 1punch ko him. Of course in like the 9-10th rnd if conor gasses & mayweather keeps the pressure he can ko him but the problem is mayweather wants the win more than getting the finish as when you open yourself up to ko someone you leave opening to get tagged yourself which is why i doubt mayweather goes for the ko in this fight nor any of his last 10 or so fights he had.
I think this is exactly what will happen. At age 40 and a perfect 49-0 record, Mayweather is not going to get in there and "Brawl" it out with Mcgregor. He is going to do what he did to Pacqiauo but with more dominance. He will hit Conor as often as he wants, while easily avoiding Mcgregors punches. CM may get a few in, but nothing that will hurt Floyd. I give Mcgregor maybe like a 1-2% chance of winning the fight, and it would be by an early KO. Other than that, he will gas out in the later rounds and the culmination of Floyd's "Pot Shots" will finish him. I don't think Floyd has the power to one punch KO Conor, but he is going to land an insane number of punches, while Conor will be lucky to land 10% of his shots, and will just run out of steam. So I think a late round TKO stoppage is the most likely, but the fight going all 12 is a possibility too.

As far as betting, because I do believe the odds are pretty damn good for a bet on FM I may place one, but also I don't have a huge bankroll, so I am not sure that the small ROI is worth the risk for me personally. I may just make a few "Friendly" bets with some people I know locally, and give them like 2 to 1 odds if they take Mcgregor. Then when the fight gets closer and Conor is like a +900 dog, I can put a small bet on him so I am winning no matter the outcome
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote
06-30-2017 , 09:18 PM
Right, so if Floyd will both hit Conor as often a she wants and and easily dodge Conor's punches, how does this fight go more than a few rounds? Like, I don't care if Floyd isn't a big puncher and is old, dude is a professional boxer and catching a square jab in the face is going to sting, let alone all the other punches Floyd will land at will.
Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather (August 26th) Quote

      
m