for a lot of reasons including that most people don't want to live this lifestyle, don't want to endure the swings, and most importantly wouldn't be that good at it.

Like someone already said, its not that they ever have a 25% edge. Its that they make dozens or hundreds of bets a week (depending on their specialty and time of year) at very small edges.

Or, it could that virtually nobody has a genuine expectation of that kind of return for large sums - though obv some will be lucky just like some will go broke.

For small amounts, sure. At poker, adding 25% on ave to a small roll is easy. But can you expect to turn 2 million into 2.5 million in one year? I'd think that the large sums we are talking about make achieving high betting return harder also, for obv reasons.

Goddamn this is worse than the talk about riggage. Here's a gif of Mosley almost knocking Floyd down:

Interesting look into what it's like fighting Floyd

Man, perfect descriptions.

I never thought this fight would happen. Sure it was fun to talk about, but them actually getting in the ring together is just insane to me. As a fan of both boxing, and more recently UFC/MMA I hope the fight is at least entertaining. The last 5 or more Mayweather fights have been fairly "Boring" compared to Mcgregor's fights in my opinion, but it is a completely different sport. Even though CM is a beast in the octagon, I can't see him touching Floyd. His only chance is catching FM with a shot early in the fight, but after that, I think he will be frustrated and gas out after the first 3-4 rounds.

I don't think Floyd has the power to KO Mcgregor either though really. I mean it is possible, but it won't be a one punch KO, but a flurry of punches that ends the fight in round 4-6. I think that is the most likely outcome, or possibly a repeat of the Pacman fight where he fights very defensively and just beats Mcgregor on points. Can Mcgregor go a full 12 rounds though?

It seems like free money betting on Floyd right now, and I would expect the odds to shift as the fight gets closer, but I am not sure I'm willing to tie up any $$ for 2+ months for a relatively low return(I don't have a huge bankroll, and I'm not willing to put it all up on this one fight). I'd much rather use my roll to play poker and would expect to earn a greater ROI than placing a bet on FM. I can't imagine many scenarios where Floyd loses, and certainly don't think he would take a dive and tarnish his perfect record.

With all that being said, I still would like to place a bet, but I'm not quite sure on what or for how much. What do you all think are the best prop bets to make? Those seem to offer the greatest value. Although I may just pass on placing a bet on a booking site, and just watch the fight with some friends. I'm pretty sure that some people I watch the fight with that have no clue about odds, would be willing to make an even money bet that Mcgregor wins. I'd happily take their action and take Floyd as the winner by any method or round. If that's the case, I think I could make a grand easily just from a few "Friendly" bets, unless Mcgregor lands a miracle punch lol. I just know a lot of people dislike Mayweather, and see the knockouts Mcgregor has delivered and would think he will do the same to Floyd. What they don't understand is that in a pure boxing match, Mcgregor is just outclassed and will be lucky to make it through all 12 rounds.

Solid bet is the O/U for PVP buys at 4.99M

Conor is going to bring his 1-1.5M buys from his UFC numbers, but boxing fans aren't going to bite I think. Floyd's last fight against Berto did 300k because boxing fans knew it was a joke.

Unless the media does a 180 and starts acting like this will be competotive, I think the daylight is going to hurt this (as we've seen a little in this thread).

It's going to do big numbers, but 5M seems crazy

I'd take the over EVERYONE is watching this imo


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Do we know anything about the price yet?

I'll take under 5m for anyone interested in a bet.

Now having already made my point that Mac has 0% chance in this, his mma boxing is probably the most impressive I've seen.

He is really accurate and when he hits them they go down almost everytime. He doesnt wrestle, has no BJJ, dont even use kicks. His whole gameplan is avoiding everything else and just crushing everyone on the feet and it usually works.

So its possible that we are underestimating his boxing skills a bit.

But then again ofc May is one of the GOAT boxers so anything but a very easy win for him makes no sense. My point is just that it's not like he is fighting GSP or Jacare or someone like that.

Bruh...

^^ Sick gif of Cody.

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If conor wins there are gonna be a lot of broke ass people LOL.

lol definitely. Although, I don't know about broke, definitely wishing they didn't lay that bet. I don't think the average person is going to bet on Floyd because the return is too low for the majority of the public to be worthwhile. I really only see sharps dropping 6 figures + on Floyd, and they certainly aren't betting their whole bankroll on the fight. Maybe like 30% though, which would still sting I would think. I mean my roll is nowhere near 6 figures, and I would be bummed if I lost 30% of it because Mcgregor pulled out a miracle win. I'm super tempted to drop about 30-35% on FM, but idk it just seems too good to be true. I mean I kind of understand why the odds are the way they are, but why wouldn't more of the professional sport bettors be jumping all over -550 for Mayweather? I mean I know the fight is more than 2 months away, and that's a lot of cash to tie up for that amount of time, but I imagine the odds are going to swing back to what they "Should Be" in another month or so. Taking Mcgregor at +350 doesn't make any sense to me, maybe like +3000. I guess if that was the case there would be a **** ton of $100-$300 bets going down for Mcgregor. I'm still pretty new to sports betting, but those odds are way off and I would think people with $$$ would want to jump on the opportunity.

I'm not so sure about the 4.99 PPV's either. I could see it go either way. That is a **** load of pay per views, and I'm guessing they are going to be charging anywhere from $99.99-$149.99 which will bring in fewer buys in my opinion. I know a lot of people that aren't even necessarily boxing or MMA fans that would watch this fight, mainly just because of the hype. I think the same thing happened for the Manny/Mayweather fight, and we all saw how entertaining that was and how many did that fight sell? 4.5 mil or something like that? I noticed on social media, all of a sudden there was a bunch of "Boxing Experts" posting **** that made no sense after the fight. I know a ton of people who watched that fight, that probably had never watched a single boxing match before that. I think all the hype, and this being a first and somewhat of a circus show could bring in record numbers, but 5 million may be a stretch especially if the price is high as I am estimating. I think it's very possible though. I don't think any fight in history will be more hyped than this one. Even though it appears to be such a mismatch, I am tempted to buy the fight just to see what happens. I'm a fan of both fighters, and even though pretty much every expert is saying it won't even be a contest for Floyd, no one really knows what will happen. Stranger things have happened right?

Conor never uses BJJ and his punches are WAY more dangerous than his kicks. I said mma boxing because I meant striking with hands.

Nearly every Mayweather fight has been beyond boring. It is amazing to me that people pay $150 for that ****.

I think they got a decent shot at breaking 5million. At worst prob got a 2million base with each guys core. Once these 2 guys sit down on a stage and have a press conference, the **** talk is gonna be legendary. Mayweather has the skills to make Conor look like the amateur that he is but in the press conference McGregor will slay Floyd

My issue with all of this is that the rumbling im hearing from the mayweather camp is that they may have certain stipulations where conor can't bring up certain aspects of mayweather personal life, if that's the case then wtf because the hype behind the fight is clearly the allure of this event. If the press conferences etc don't deliver this fight does a disappointing 2.5mill buys or so, if they deliver to the extent i think it can i can see 5-6mill ppv buys.

It's always miffed me how mma fan's care so much about the "**** talking" pre fight. It's all so arbitrary and transparently setup to sell. LOL at people that fall for it... like... Why even have a fights? Cut out the middle man and have Floyd and Mac go on comics insult each other with Jeff Ross if that's what you want. For me, all that crap is just phoney and immature and diminishes the sport(s) greatly.

There is absolutely no way a "good" press conference is going to make a 4 million dollar ppv difference. LOL. You really think non hardcore fight fans care that much?

98.5% of the general public who watch this fight won't even register that there has been any press conferences. Everyone just wants to have something to talk about the following monday at the office. That's all this fight is.

Sure the **** talking isnt for everyone but it is 100% why this fight has a chance to break the ppv record. You can dismiss it all you want but there is a reason most ufc ppv's sell a couple hundred thousand while mcgregor goes over a million.

If conor wins it would be the greatest sporting moment ever!

Not sure if I would even watch this for free to be honest. No way I would pay.

It's not just press conferences, it's social media comments, it's the all access, the embedded on ufc etc. This is called promotion, so yea with the right "promotion" it greatly helps the sale of the fight.