Also, my last post for the night so I'll elaborate more about what I like about TA now.

A) is a talented scorer when you put the ball in his hands (good spark off the bench)
B) good defender
C) put back dunks

holla

He's an awful fit for this team because he needs the ball in his hands to be effective on offense (without it he absolutly blows cause his jump shot sucks, and he never cuts or anything), and honestly his dribbling I feel is one of his stronger points, he can beat his man off the dribble very well but he still makes poor decisions (low bball iq).

His defense is also overrated although he does a good job vs smaller guards but def struggles with anyone 6'6+.

Also he is abysmal on the fast break and misses ~60% of his layups. But other than that, he's spectacular.

I would have loved if he never broke his knee on a pointless on dunk and ruined his most valuable asset

If Tony Allen misses 60% of his layups, Rondo misses 90%

Three weeks ago, I would have said Celtics in 4. However, the Cavs have finally found an identity after the trade and have shown some signs of becoming a VERY good basketball team (obviously ignoring Game 3 against Washington.) Furthermore, the Celtics look like one of these very sexy regular season teams that can't keep it up in the playoffs ala last years Suns and the 01 Seattle Mariners. I think I'm going Celtics in 7 because the Cavs are abysmal on the road. However, if they had home court, I would likely go Cavs in 7. Either way, this series is going to be much closer than any M******* would ever give credit to.

for the record, the celts had a +12.3 PD in the series against the hawks. pyth wise they "should" have gone 4-0. it's simply INSANELY BAD VARIANCE that they lost 3. really. no "holes were exposed". Celts in 5, would be more surprised to see it go 6 then a sweep.

obv SOME other women.. the question is really about frequencies/variety

Could we get a look at the H/A splits for PD? Oh the C's were negative in Atlanta? They couldn't close out games on the road? Doc got outcoached by a guy who promised to shave his head if his team made the playoffs?

Holes were exposed. But I'm guessing that any of the great coaches in the league are upset as they probably already knew what the holes were.

tbach, go to bed

can't sleep IMO

I agree with tbach. As a poker forum, we have a habit of applying the math of coins/cards to real humans. This wasn't simply variance. Anyone who watched games 4 and 6 knows real **** went down.

I was flaming Cassell a bit in the last thread, but I think the Celts need his shooting in this series. House is a better overall PG but Allen/Pierce are fine playmakers. Wally and other Cavs are poor perimeter defenders. So Pierce and Allen will attract more help defense and you'll need someone to step into those open shots.

I'd say insanely bad 4th quarter execution is a hole. I mean Posey's shooting of all things kept 2 of those games closer at the end

As long as Cassell isn't on the court with any of Allen, Pierce or Garnett, I'm content to have Sam in the game. But Sam with any of the scorers is horrible.

lol, sounds like something don nelson would do

this would be an interesting argument.

I dont think you can compare JJ with guards like rip and redd.

JJ is more like the style of wade,roy,tmac, and I would definetely say all 3 of them are better than JJ.

Bobbo is right I would take every single player mentioned above over JJ except for Monte ellis, and k-mart.

Vince carter shouldnt be mentioned in the same category as all of these other great guards. One of my most hated players in the league besides his dunks. For no particular reason.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge them, based on 3 games, here's some highlights from atlanta's season

7pt win at home vs Dallas
1pt loss on road vs Detroit
9pt home W vs Phoenix
11pt road W vs Orlando
5pt home W vs Utah
11pt home W vs Denver
3pt home W vs Lakers
7pt road W vs GoldenState

they were capable of winning games at home vs good teams, very inconsistent sure

the home games were never in doubt

I'm a homer so I had to go with Cavs in 6. Cavs in 7 just doesn't seem likely since they would have to win a huge game 7 on the road. So, Cavs in 6 it is.

I expect the usual, Don't let LeBron beat us, strategy with the C's double/triple teaming LeBron on most possessions. That means it's down to Z, Wally, Gibson, and West to hit those open shots.

Each one of those guys took turns in the Wizards series stepping up and having big games and if they can do it again I think they have a chance.

I fully expect at least 2 complete blowout wins by the Celtics when none of the Cavs shooters are hitting. The other 4 games are close wins by the Cavs, at least one with a last second game winning shot by someone other than LeBron.

just saw this...perk hit 17/19 FTs in the hawks series

yes. sorry that wasn't clear.

wtf dude. We'll just see how hes regarded long-term.

johnson was 16th in PER this year for SGs. He's nowhere near top 3.

Ah, I see where Bobbo got his names. Well in that case, you forgot to add Ronnie Brewer and Mike Dunleavy.

Meh, he had a really bad shooting year that looks like an outlier.