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Old 04-14-2012, 12:55 AM   #526
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:04 AM   #527
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I really hope 30+ women don't come forward. I don't want the narrative of this to change from Petrino the ******* to Petrino the poor suffering sex addict.

Anyone following the story about the guy who broke this on woopig.net being an ASP officer? Looks like Bobby won't be alone on losing his job.
He may have that kind of problem, or you know whatever that is. I just don't think he had enough time to set up a stable like that.
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:06 AM   #528
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I could see a beat writer sitting on a story until he had 100% proof, especially for someone like Petrino/Saban/Meyer who are pretty aggressive towards the media. For example, if there were rumors of Petrino sleeping with a co-worker, I doubt you would see a beat writer FOIing his phone records when he was the coach. Now after the fact, the sharks smell blood and if there is anything out there, no one is sitting on anything.
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:11 AM   #529
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WTF how is torre even relevant here? We're talking about a coach that has ALREADY BEEN FIRED. No beat writer is sitting there thinking "well I better just sit on this cause you never know, maybe the athletic department will be all PSYCHE!!! and I'll be ****ed cuz mean old Bobby P will be disappoint."

And LOL at comparing a writer for the LA ****ing times covering the ****ING DODGERS with some guy trying to make a name for himself. The guy covering the dodgers has, for all intents and purposes, ALREADY MADE IT. Of course he doesn't want to rock the boat, he's got a sweet gig and is on easy street.

The comparison is totally stupid.

How, in your opinion, did this story manage to get out in the first place? I mean, we are RIGHT NOW IN THE REAL WORLD reading and talking about it. SOME journalist apparently has the sack necessary to publish a story (and to do so BEFORE petrino got canned!!!). Yet you're STILL telling us that all the incentives point the other way, nobody would dare do STUFF THAT ALREADY HAPPENED. And now, the barriers you're telling us that would stop these gutless cowards are GONE yet you're STILL saying that they're the reason these people will not do that which they've already done.

It's utterly mind-blowing.

Digging up dirt on sitting US presidents is an EVEN SMALLER niche than digging up dirt on college football coaches.

conclusion: breaking a story about POTUS diddling an intern would be a career killer, nobody would remember who you are, don't rock the boat

exhibt A: matt drudge

And BTW, the NY Times was brought up AFTER you made your "why would any journalist rock the boat" ****** post.

And super LOL @ backpedaling now to make some hair-splitting distinction between a columnist for the Miami Herald and a local college paper writer. IF ANYTHING the incentive for the columnist for the Herald to "play ball" and bury a story would be MUCH HIGHER for a guy who is in a "real job" and probably has a family and has established himself in town than for some hungry kid in college who is probably going to move away and find a job somewhere else and wants to have something to put on his resume.

Yet, amazingly, Dan Lebatard is STILL WITH THE HERALD. He still manages to get work and write about stuff in the same town where his actions, according to you, would A) do nothing for his career and B) just piss people off. So how is it that he isn't starving to death in a gutter somewhere???

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Digging up dirt on sitting US presidents is an EVEN SMALLER niche than digging up dirt on college football coaches.

conclusion: breaking a story about POTUS diddling an intern would be a career killer, nobody would remember who you are, don't rock the boat

exhibt A: matt drudge
It a good thing that Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward decided to sit on that story about the break-in the Democratic National Committee building back in 1972. Investigating and then publishing **** like that could have gotten real and caused Nixon to have to resign. In addition, there certainly would not be any praise 40 years later for the investigative reporting Bernstein and Woodward did on the subject. LOL
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Old 04-14-2012, 06:38 AM   #531
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I won't challenge razorbacker on F'nam knowledge but 'Bud Walton Arena' wtf

OTOH they rescued the business school from about to lose accreditaton in my day to top 25 public ranking now.
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:44 AM   #532
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speaking of Arkansas:

why is there no Youtube video of Nolan Richardson's press conference meltdown where he said "my great-great grandfather came over on that ship, not Nolan Richardson"?

one of the all time great rants
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Old 04-14-2012, 10:32 AM   #533
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lol Fyte On
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:07 AM   #534
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I won't challenge razorbacker on F'nam knowledge but 'Bud Walton Arena' wtf

OTOH they rescued the business school from about to lose accreditaton in my day to top 25 public ranking now.
Bud Walton died in 1995 and since then most of the donations from the Walton heirs has been for academics and the arts. About 10 years ago they gave 300 million to the university and just a few years ago they made another huge donation. They just gave 800 million for an art museum in Northwest Arkansas.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:08 AM   #535
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Yeah, the Walton's give a ton to academics but not much to athletics. Stephens, Tyson, Hunt, Walker, and the Reynolds foundation give the big bucks to athletics.
Walton sports money goes to mizzou.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:37 AM   #536
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Bud Walton died in 1995 and since then most of the donations from the Walton heirs has been for academics and the arts. About 10 years ago they gave 300 million to the university and just a few years ago they made another huge donation. They just gave 800 million for an art museum in Northwest Arkansas.
They seem way more practical with donations to me. Own the world's largest business, let's build a pretty damn good b-school 15 miles away. That's neither here nor their though, but we are already off the rails. Were the Walkers early investors in Wal-Mart? Internet not very clear, but they definitely donate huge money and put their names on things.
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Old 04-14-2012, 11:42 AM   #537
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Props to Bobby's 2nd girl (hotter than dorell imo), but wtf is that thing next to her
That's the kinda gal that will let you go ATM. They are kinda rare.
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Old 04-14-2012, 12:27 PM   #538
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Were the Walkers early investors in Wal-Mart? Internet not very clear, but they definitely donate huge money and put their names on things.
Yes, that is where their money came from. Hell, that is where most of NWA money came from. It is unreal how many people lucked into millions off of Wal-Mart.

Walton's are very practical with their donations, but I prefer the Phil Knight and T Boone approach.
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What the **** are you going to put in an $800 million art museum in NW Arkansas?
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:51 PM   #541
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What the **** are you going to put in an $800 million art museum in NW Arkansas?
Portraits of the Waltons and Elvis on black velvet paintings?

But seriously, any decent sized collection with old stuff in it will cost a fortune. I grew up in a place with no decent museums anywhere within even reasonable daytrip distance, as I imagine Arkansas would be, and it basically sucks. There actually were awful museums, though. It doesn't take much for an extremely wealthy person to learn a little about art and realize his area's museums featuring local artist Jeb Bushwhacker's depictions of seasonal hunting activities are a laughing stock.
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What the **** are you going to put in an $800 million art museum in NW Arkansas?
photos of Petrino's junk?
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What the **** are you going to put in an $800 million art museum in NW Arkansas?
Mainly selections from your own $400 MM art collection.
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I'm curious of everyone's thoughts on what Arkansas should do at this point. The only other time that I have found where a top 5-10 team has lost their coach this late and it wasn't due to NCAA violations was Miami in 84. They were able to hire Jimmy Johnson in June. The consensus around Arkansas is that we will go for a homerun hire and if that doesn't work we will go interim for the season. The fan base is split on whether we should go interim or make a permanent hire.

My opinion is that you go for a big hire right now such as Chris Petersen, Jon Gruden, Gary Patterson, Art Briles, Dana Holgerson, or someone of that caliber. It will be extremely difficult to get one of those guys away at this point, but you have to try. If that doesn't pan out, you go the interim route. The problem with the interim route is what do you do if the new coach goes 10-2 or 11-1? You are locked into hiring him, and we don't have anyone on staff with the current credentials to be a head football coach in the SEC. Everyone knows Petrino was an ass, but he won. I could see the team rallying around someone (especially a rah-rah guy) for one season and having a big year, only to watch us follow that up with three bad seasons before we have to restart the program from scratch.

Outside of the bad timing, we are at our peak as far as what we can offer a coach right now. We have the #3 QB, #2 RB, #1 TE, and #2 WR on Kiper's 2013 draft board. We have a Senior laden team with as good of a schedule that you could ask for from an SEC West standpoint. I don't think we are nearly as desirable of a job at the end of the 2012 season as we are today.
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I'm curious of everyone's thoughts on what Arkansas should do at this point. The only other time that I have found where a top 5-10 team has lost their coach this late and it wasn't due to NCAA violations was Miami in 84. They were able to hire Jimmy Johnson in June. The consensus around Arkansas is that we will go for a homerun hire and if that doesn't work we will go interim for the season. The fan base is split on whether we should go interim or make a permanent hire.

My opinion is that you go for a big hire right now such as Chris Petersen, Jon Gruden, Gary Patterson, Art Briles, Dana Holgerson, or someone of that caliber. It will be extremely difficult to get one of those guys away at this point, but you have to try. If that doesn't pan out, you go the interim route. The problem with the interim route is what do you do if the new coach goes 10-2 or 11-1? You are locked into hiring him, and we don't have anyone on staff with the current credentials to be a head football coach in the SEC. Everyone knows Petrino was an ass, but he won. I could see the team rallying around someone (especially a rah-rah guy) for one season and having a big year, only to watch us follow that up with three bad seasons before we have to restart the program from scratch.

Outside of the bad timing, we are at our peak as far as what we can offer a coach right now. We have the #3 QB, #2 RB, #1 TE, and #2 WR on Kiper's 2013 draft board. We have a Senior laden team with as good of a schedule that you could ask for from an SEC West standpoint. I don't think we are nearly as desirable of a job at the end of the 2012 season as we are today.
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Looking over the details of Dorrel's hiring process is kind of funny:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...&sct=hp_t11_a0

Cliffs:
*emailed university EEOC office to ask to skip 30 day wait period and start interviewing 5 days in.
*got a "yes" back that morning (10:44)
*had already "interviewed" Dorrel by then (9:30)
*she doesn't meet several of the job requirements
*a number of "perfect qualifiers" don't make the list of finalists
*she used the $20k to buy an Acura

Oh, and Tiffany Fields is cute. You should tell her she needs to specifically make her facebook pictures private.


Honestly it's kind of a donk move my Petrino--everybody knows to taylor the job qualifications description to exactly match your target's resume.
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I'm curious of everyone's thoughts on what Arkansas should do at this point. The only other time that I have found where a top 5-10 team has lost their coach this late and it wasn't due to NCAA violations was Miami in 84. They were able to hire Jimmy Johnson in June. The consensus around Arkansas is that we will go for a homerun hire and if that doesn't work we will go interim for the season. The fan base is split on whether we should go interim or make a permanent hire.

My opinion is that you go for a big hire right now such as Chris Petersen, Jon Gruden, Gary Patterson, Art Briles, Dana Holgerson, or someone of that caliber. It will be extremely difficult to get one of those guys away at this point, but you have to try. If that doesn't pan out, you go the interim route. The problem with the interim route is what do you do if the new coach goes 10-2 or 11-1? You are locked into hiring him, and we don't have anyone on staff with the current credentials to be a head football coach in the SEC. Everyone knows Petrino was an ass, but he won. I could see the team rallying around someone (especially a rah-rah guy) for one season and having a big year, only to watch us follow that up with three bad seasons before we have to restart the program from scratch.

Outside of the bad timing, we are at our peak as far as what we can offer a coach right now. We have the #3 QB, #2 RB, #1 TE, and #2 WR on Kiper's 2013 draft board. We have a Senior laden team with as good of a schedule that you could ask for from an SEC West standpoint. I don't think we are nearly as desirable of a job at the end of the 2012 season as we are today.
As you say, extremely difficult to get any of those guys. Plus, leaving their programs in April or May would basically be a strike against these guys. But then, heh, you know, they may actually want to make this hiring process conform with their EEOC rules in which case maybe June or July.

Lol, why is Chris Peterson on every shortlist for every opening? At least you're not saying that top boosters have a 'secret agreement' with him already in place as many others have.

Jon Gruden, based on the one college game per year I seem him broadcast, watches that one college game and only that one college game every year.

Gary Patterson is a master of the 4-2-5 defense, which IDK if you have the personel for plus adjustment years are usually rough anyway. Long term that switch could be very good for you, since it's basically been kryptonite to Alabama and nobody else in the SECW runs it. Do you have a bunch of extra safeties?

Art Briles could be intriguing, but I'm not sure one majorly impressive program turnaround aided by a transformative talent would count as a big hire for a team that effectively needs to win one more game.

Dana Holgerson would be epic just for the GoldenBears meltdown! Has also been known to claim he can install his offense very quickly. I forget just how quickly; 1 practice, 10 practices, 2 hours? Something like that. Sounds like your guy to me!!!
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Both Holtzes are available. lol. in re last page, I think Arky has to be a tier 2 place but on the upper crust of it. Just because the SEC is so sick good right now.
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Paul Petrino is my answer for what to do now. Hire as Interim HC for the year with an opportunity to make it a long-term hire. He knows the system, I think he has toed the line between Bobby Petrino's brother and a guy that just wants to keep doing his job as expertly as any human being could. I don't see him continuing on as an issue, and I see him as the mostly likely member of the staff to leave.

BUT REALLY

Offer Malzahn 6 MM per year for 3 years yesterday. See what he says.
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