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Old 06-27-2012, 11:07 PM   #1726
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Re: NHL Offseason 2012 Thread

"To have Giordano, Bouwmeester, Wideman and Butler, that's a pretty decent top 4."

- Jay Feaster, June 27th, 2012

****ING DIE YOU FATASS MOTHER****ING ****
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:15 PM   #1727
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Re: NHL Offseason 2012 Thread

BUTLERRRRRRRRRR

I mean, I don't think Wideman is all that bad, it's just a horrible contract. Wideman can play average competition to even. He'll be better than Scott Hannan. Maybe he'll help the power play. And yeah I guess Calgary has to spend that money on someone. But still.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:18 PM   #1728
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The Sharks have had plenty of AIDSy moments, but I take some solace that they aren't actively trying to get worse on a regular basis.

My condolences GL.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:22 PM   #1729
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Re: NHL Offseason 2012 Thread

He'll definitely help the powerplay, which has been absolutely abysmal over the last few seasons. But that contract, dear God. Calgary once again negotiates against themselves, and loses. NO ONE was offering Wideman $26 mil over 5 years, even in this market.

This was my kid brother's take, who is a legendary optimist and diehard Leafs fan (he's in the fistpump gif), but a very rational kid nonetheless; he played junior so he likes to give players the benefit of the doubt and doesn't go out of his way to chirp guys incessantly. Anyways:

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They needed a D man from the free agent pool. They got one, but they did overpay. Its not necessarily that the current management staff is making the WRONG moves, its that they're making them in either very unorthodox ways or perhaps at the wrong point in time...

But I have to say, if you were going to pay that much anyways, they probably just threw away a 5th and a potential roster player... because I have to think that offer would have been one of the highest submitted to Wideman even on or after July 1.
What's frustrating to me is that this was the time to let T.J. Brodie start to take over that role organically, at 1/5th of the price.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:26 PM   #1730
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Oilers and nucks front runners for schultz. Bring it bitches.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:27 PM   #1731
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Re: NHL Offseason 2012 Thread

Wideman:


SEASON TEAM GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG S S%
2006-2007 BLUES 55 5 17 22 -7 44 4 0 1 94 5.3
2006-2007 BRUINS 20 1 2 3 -3 27 0 0 0 28 3.6
2007-2008 BRUINS 81 13 23 36 11 70 9 0 1 171 7.6
2008-2009 BRUINS 79 13 37 50 32 34 6 1 2 169 7.7
2009-2010 BRUINS 76 6 24 30 -14 34 2 0 2 146 4.1
2010-2011 PANTHERS 61 9 24 33 -26 33 8 0 1 135 6.7
2010-2011 CAPITALS 14 1 6 7 7 6 1 0 0 25 4.0
2011-2012 CAPITALS 82 11 35 46 -8 46 4 0 3 175 6.3

Carle:


SEASON TEAM GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG S S%
2007-2008 SHARKS 62 2 13 15 -8 26 2 0 1 63 3.2
2008-2009 LIGHTNING 12 1 1 2 1 6 0 0 0 13 7.7
2008-2009 FLYERS 64 4 20 24 2 16 0 0 2 72 5.6
2009-2010 FLYERS 80 6 29 35 19 16 2 0 1 137 4.4
2010-2011 FLYERS 82 1 39 40 30 23 0 0 0 117 0.9
2011-2012 FLYERS 82 4 34 38 4 36 3 0 0 132 3.0

Carle gonna get paidddddddddd

Edit: Meh, tough to read, but whatever. Point stands.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:29 PM   #1732
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wideman already had a full NMC - the contract he signed
T has me on ignore obviously
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:34 PM   #1733
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Re: NHL Offseason 2012 Thread

For those interested, pretty good column on how Bure feels he was treated during his stay with the Canucks:

Cliffs: lol Quinn, lol GMGM etc

http://blogs.theprovince.com/2010/12...-of-vancouver/
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:44 PM   #1734
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T has me on ignore obviously
you gotta change your avatar. i think that you are goofyballer. not that i ignore goofy's posts, but they tend to be shark-based and i'm definitely not reading them closely
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:45 PM   #1735
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Wouldn't it be great if after all these years, Iginla was the one making the final decision on all personnel decisions in Calgary.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:58 PM   #1736
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Iginla's been known to get involved in the recruiting process. It was well-known he was not only on board with the Bertuzzi signing in '08, but he went to speak with him as UFA started and convinced Darryl it would be a good fit; they played together at Torino in '06.

Iginla was a major player in bringing back Tanguay, he also pushed hard in trying to bring back Marc Savard before he signed for Boston and Cammalleri said Jarome had him nearly convinced to stay with the Flames in '09, except for the fact that Darryl had no money to put together a real offer after acquiring Jokinen.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:59 PM   #1737
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you gotta change your avatar. i think that you are goofyballer.
Maintain solidarity, Adam! We will find my love someday.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:06 AM   #1738
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you gotta change your avatar. i think that you are goofyballer. not that i ignore goofy's posts, but they tend to be shark-based and i'm definitely not reading them closely
lol, yeah i read that earlier post about AS being at Bure's 1st game vs Winnipeg thinking it was goofy bc of the green name + avator and was like wtf? noticed it just before i posted a stunned response...
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:22 AM   #1739
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Speaking of avatars, it was time to bring back Buscemi, and also include the details of the contract I reasonably could've expected from the Flames had they seen me play high school back in the day.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:31 AM   #1740
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Come to think of it, at least overpaying for Wideman means we won't overpay for Kubina on Sunday, and I was legitimately terrified that would happen, given the TB '04 Cup connection.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:39 AM   #1741
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Good for you Geddy. Find those silver linings.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:51 AM   #1742
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I was flying WestJet into Vegas and saw buscemi wedding singer scene about to start on my neighbours screen. I instantly unplugged my headphones from my iPod and changed the channel just in time, only to have the pilot make a meaningless announcement in two languages.
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:12 AM   #1743
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"To have Giordano, Bouwmeester, Wideman and Butler, that's a pretty decent top 4."

- Jay Feaster, June 27th, 2012

****ING DIE YOU FATASS MOTHER****ING ****
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:35 AM   #1744
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Re: NHL Offseason 2012 Thread

Can anyone who knows hockey better than I do (which is most of you) please give me a rundown of the Predators offseason.

How well did we draft?
How good are our chances of resigning Sutter?


Thanks
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Old 06-28-2012, 01:48 AM   #1745
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Can anyone who knows hockey better than I do (which is most of you) please give me a rundown of the Predators offseason.

How well did we draft?
How good are our chances of resigning Sutter?


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How well did you draft? Prob not that good since you traded away your 1st round pick for Gaustad

How good are your chances of resigning sutter? I would say pretty awful, hes not resigning
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:27 AM   #1746
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WHAT THE **** DID I DO IN MY LIFETIME TO DESERVE THIS ****ING GARBAGE, JESUS CHRIST ALMIGHTY WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME?

**** YOU FEASTER, **** YOU WEISBROD, OHHHHH ESPECIALLY **** YOU KEN KING AND **** THE TWITTER GUY FOR OPENING HIS GODDAMN YAP AND **** THIS ENTIRE LEAGUE AND **** THE NHL ALL-STAR GAME FOR MAKING IT PLAUSIBLE FOR DENNIS ****ING WIDEMAN TO MAKE $26 MILLION FOR BEING A PROFESSIONAL PYLON AND **** STANSTEAD COLLEGE FOR HAVING A HOCKEY PROGRAM THAT WAS ACCESSIBLE FOR OUR SCOUTING STAFF...

...WHICH REMINDS ME, **** YOU TO HELL TOD BUTTON AND **** YOUR BROTHER TOO AND **** YOUR FAMILY FOR RAISING YOU TWO TO BE SUCH ****ING IDIOTS AND HAVING CONNECTIONS SO THEY COULD RUIN MY BELOVED TEAM

AND **** THE LEAGUE FOR NOT VETOING THIS TRADE A LA CHRIS PAUL BECAUSE SOMETIMES ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND **** ME FOR HAVING TO READ ABOUT THIS AT WORK AND MAKE ME COMPULSIVELY FIND MY PHONE SO I COULD VENT

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Old 06-28-2012, 03:33 AM   #1747
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I'm immediately popping the champagne when we sign Matt Carle #paythatmanhismaney
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:58 AM   #1748
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Wideman:
SEASONTEAMGPGAP+/-PIMPPGSHGGWGSS%
2006-07BLUES55 51722-744401945.3
2006-07BRUINS20123-327000283.6
2007-08BRUINS8113233611709011717.6
2008-09BRUINS7913375032346121697.7
2009-10BRUINS7662430-14342021464.1
2010-11PANTHERS6192433-26338011356.7
2010-11CAPITALS1416776100254.0
2011-12CAPITALS82113546-8464031756.3

Carle:
SEASONTEAMGPGAP+/-PIMPPG SHGGWGSS%
2007-08SHARKS6221315-826201633.2
2008-09LIGHTNING1211216000137.7
2008-09FLYERS6442024216002725.6
2009-10FLYERS806293519162011374.4
2010-11FLYERS821394030230001170.9
2011-12FLYERS82434384363001323.0

Carle gonna get paidddddddddd
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:22 AM   #1749
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Yikes.

Muresean, was Wideman considered decent in Caps fans circles in his first 30 or so games last season?

I forgot how solid his '08-09 season was with Boston. Pretty sure he had the Chara pairing that year though. But by his end at Boston, he was getting booed mercilessly, he was just god awful. But I thought I remember him being decent in the first half of last season for Washington. It's almost like he has this honeymoon phase with each new team but his AIDS invariably always rears its ugly head, most often during the crucial time of the year.
I thought Wideman was pretty decent before the ASB (how else would he get in?), but afterwards he was legitimately terrible. Him amd Schultz were turning the puck over and giving up multiple chances every time they were on the ice together. It really was a thing to behold. I wanted his head at the end, but it was Orlov that got benched. God why didnt gmgm listen to me and trade that dusty hack at the deadline? Aaaarrrggggggghhhhh
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:18 AM   #1750
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Pretty much anyone playing with Schultz is guarandamnteed to get scored on. That's not wideman's fault. He is certainly average or slightly below average who would look a lot worse if he had to play against the toughs, but he didn't. Carlson/Alzner did.

Then there's this mythical puck moving defenseman label that hasn't improved the caps PP one iota except for a short stretch in the beginning of last year. I think what's more telling is that Orlov apparently credited his improvement last year to help from hamrlik (who hardly played and looked *a lot* worse than his territorial metrics). If your one allstar offensive-D can't be an example to the young ones, that's kinda bad.

He's not terrible, but the caps could do a lot better (which they did with the trade). And so could the flames. That contract is just the icing on the cake. Holy hell, geddy might take up heroin by the end of it.
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