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Old 06-23-2012, 02:31 PM   #1501
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both there with or without Martin?

and how would it hamstring their depth:

Center - Sid, Geno, Sutter, whoever
Wing - Neal, Parise, Kunitz, Kennedy, Cooke, Dupuis, whoever
D - Letang, Suter, Orpik, Engelland, Lovejoy, prospects/whoever (assuming Martin is moved)
Goal - Fleury, Vokoun

that's a pretty damn solid team, depending on what money is left over for filler.

D maybe a little weak unless some of those prospects are ready to make the jump, or unless they can sign some guys. or you if you like Niskanen, or think Strait is any good (no clue).
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:34 PM   #1502
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Doesnt Pitt still have to clear tons of cap space to pull that off?
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:36 PM   #1503
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There is no way they can pull that off with all the contracts expiring at the end of next year.

Maybe they can get one of Suter/Parise
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:43 PM   #1504
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i think they could def sign both if they can move Martin.

and what contracts expiring? the only major one is Sid, and he already makes $8.7m. rumour is he wants a small bump to $9m or something. if getting Parise costs them Kennedy, or Cooke, or whoever then so be it. that's fairly easily replaceable.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:43 PM   #1505
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~110 days til next season
If we're lucky. CBA expires September 15th lol.
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:45 PM   #1506
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i think they could def sign both if they can move Martin.

and what contracts expiring? the only major one is Sid, and he already makes $8.7m. rumour is he wants a small bump to $9m or something. if getting Parise costs them Kennedy, or Cooke, or whoever then so be it. that's fairly easily replaceable.
They only have 5 forwards signed for 2013-2014

Even if most of those are small its going to add up quick...
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Old 06-23-2012, 02:45 PM   #1507
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both there with or without Martin?

and how would it hamstring their depth:

Center - Sid, Geno, Sutter, whoever
Wing - Neal, Parise, Kunitz, Kennedy, Cooke, Dupuis, whoever
D - Letang, Suter, Orpik, Engelland, Lovejoy, prospects/whoever (assuming Martin is moved)
Goal - Fleury, Vokoun

that's a pretty damn solid team, depending on what money is left over for filler.

D maybe a little weak unless some of those prospects are ready to make the jump, or unless they can sign some guys. or you if you like Niskanen, or think Strait is any good (no clue).
Despres and Bortuzzo are looked at as D prospects who could step in next year.

I mean, that's a great team, but it is really, really top heavy. Estimate $14.5M for Parise/Suter combined, then you've got Malkin and Crosby needing raises to $10M, Letang should get $8M - it's $42M for 5 players in a year or two. Pittsburgh doesn't really have a forward prospect besides Eric Tangradi, so that's a lot of mixing and matching in their future.
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Old 06-23-2012, 03:07 PM   #1508
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Dustin Brown ($3.175m) / Anze Kopitar ($6.800m) / Justin Williams ($3.650m)
Simon Gagne ($3.500m) / Mike Richards ($5.750m) / Jeff Carter ($5.273m)
Dwight King ($1.000m) / Jarret Stoll ($3.250m) / Trevor Lewis ($0.725m)
Kyle Clifford ($0.870m) / Colin Fraser ($0.825m) / Jordan Nolan ($0.532m)
Brad Richardson ($1.175m) / Kevin Westgarth ($0.725m)


Rob Scuderi ($3.400m) / Drew Doughty ($7.000m)
Willie Mitchell ($3.500m) / Slava Voynov ($0.817m)
Alec Martinez ($0.738m) / Matt Greene ($2.950m)
Davis Drewiske ($0.617m)


Jonathan Quick ($1.800m)
Jonathan Bernier ($1.250m)

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Assuming DKing (rfa) gets 1M
Some question about how Gagne holds up. If Penner want to sign for cheap, he could take that spot.

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Old 06-23-2012, 03:56 PM   #1509
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pretty sick situation to be in, bringing back the cup winning roster minus 1 player, and still having 10mill in cap space
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:39 PM   #1510
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yeah, hopefully they make the playoffs

(i mean, if the Stanley Cup hangover was ever gonna affect a team...)
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:54 PM   #1511
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Re: NHL Offseason 2012 Thread

Darren Dreger tweeting...

To Toronto: James van Riemsdyk
To Philly: Luke Schenn
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:56 PM   #1512
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:57 PM   #1513
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Old 06-23-2012, 04:59 PM   #1514
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Darren Dreger tweeting...

To Toronto: James van Riemsdyk
To Philly: Luke Schenn
Yes!
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:05 PM   #1515
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Luke Schenn traded to PHI for James van Riemsdyk.

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Old 06-23-2012, 05:06 PM   #1516
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You got Michalek for free. Now you're confused that somehow he's not worth very much on the trade market? Players who sign UFA rarely go for much in trade because you have to pay them market value. Shero can't convince everyone in the world to play for half their worth.
It's not as if Michalek was overpaid to come to Pittsburgh. He got a reasonable contract at a reasonable cap hit. I'm not saying I expected a ton for him, but a late third rounder and some unimpressive prospects seems pretty crappy. Would have much rather kept him. The only caveat is if it allows the Pens to sign both Parise AND Suter, and that just seems like a pipe dream.

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If the Penguins also deal Martin, they can afford Parise and Suter for sure. They might wait to pull the trigger on that deal until they know they have Suter - that's just sensible. And it's tilting me that this might actually come to pass, it would be an enormous coup for Shero and company. They already got a sick return for Staal, capitalizing on the fact that Carolina really doesn't consider him a UFA (I guess, because otherwise that's an enormous overpay). At this rate it looks like it'll be at least another 10 years before Pittsburgh has to tank, go broke, and end up getting a once-in-a-generation player.
Get it right. The order is go broke, tank, acquire generation talent.
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:07 PM   #1517
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Darren Dreger tweeting...

To Toronto: James van Riemsdyk
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:07 PM   #1518
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wow philly.
I mean wow

that's just not possible
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:08 PM   #1519
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and in case anyone hasn't noticed to this point

cats:catnip Brian Burke:American hockey players

like if i had a halfway decent US player i'd prob be calling him every day to see what he'd offer up

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Old 06-23-2012, 05:10 PM   #1520
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congrats cwice on your fourth favorite team, with former flyers joffrey lupul and james van riemsdyk
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:10 PM   #1521
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I hate you all
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Old 06-23-2012, 05:14 PM   #1523
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DON'T WORRY SEAWEISS, THIS FILLS THE MUCH NEEDED RHD ROLE THAT COST THEM THE SERIES VS NEW JERSEY

but seriously, if there is a bright side it's that D tend to develop late, and some good ones don't reach their potential until their late 20's/early 30's. so Schenn could be good eventually, maybe getting out of Toronto and playing with his brother will help. there was also the fact that they played him on the left as a RHD at times (i know they did this before, no idea if it changed of late), which can really be awkward and suck.

and maybe JvR is just a one trick pony who ran hot on playoff season...

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congrats cwice on your fourth favorite team, with former flyers joffrey lupul and james van riemsdyk
looooooooooooooooooooooooool

bringin the heat!

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Old 06-23-2012, 05:15 PM   #1524
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yeah, hopefully they make the playoffs

(i mean, if the Stanley Cup hangover was ever gonna affect a team...)
HEEYOO!!

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What is going on with pronger and his contract?
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