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Old 11-13-2012, 06:57 PM   #6326
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Canada is still way better than everyone else, like they are every year, although I suppose their goaltending is a possible weak point.
international ice though.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:07 PM   #6327
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Canada is still way better than everyone else, like they are every year, although I suppose their goaltending is a possible weak point.
Not sure if I'd go that far. Basically all of Sweden's big guns from last year are still eligible (Zibanejad, Forsberg, Collberg, Brodin, Rakell, Klefbom) and the Russians will have the best 1-2 punch at the tournament with Yakupov and Grigorenko. Neither team will be as deep through 4 lines as the Canadians or Americans but top end talent is the great equalizer in short tournaments, especially at this level - look at what Mikael Granlund did with a very mediocre Finnish team last year.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:17 PM   #6328
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meh zibanejad will be in the NHL probably (possibly), and canada is just way deeper than those teams. russia doesn't have the D. obviously again it's a short series and lots can happen but canada should be at least -100 to win the whole thing.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:23 PM   #6329
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it would be nice to not have crap goaltending for once...
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:30 PM   #6330
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People would still pay $8 for Coors Lights if you took away all the 10/10 strippers and replaced them with 8/10 ones.
I guess you've blown my mind with logic.

But then where do the 9s and 10s go?
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:31 PM   #6331
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hmm, yeah i'm not too interested in the WJ's yet

would like some NHL hockey tho, but like you said i'm gonna do my best not to give them a dime this year. if they're getting value from me seeing commercials on TV, then w/e. congrats! pretty sour about the whole thing really...



entertainment industries where the employees are the product?

lol @ having any sympathy for the owners

and have fun giving Katz a billion dollar arena or whatever

OK Tom Cruise gets 20 million and the movie makes 500 million Not the same. I watch TSN and Sidney says its not about the money and its all the owners that will not budge? Lets just get a deal done. The only thing he is right if they do not get a deal done they both lose.

50/50 is fair
5 year contracts I am fine with
5 % variance in contracts keeps owners from front ending contracts.

Players have a beef about pushing free agency further.

Katz is an idiot Makes a deal than tries to get more after it all. Kudos to City of Edmonton. If Bettman not letting the Coyotes move no way the Oilers going anywhere
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:33 PM   #6332
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I guess you've blown my mind with logic.

But then where do the 9s and 10s go?
They become the bartenders
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:41 PM   #6333
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I'd rather watch Sidney Crosby dance than serve me beers if you know what I mean.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:45 PM   #6334
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OK Tom Cruise gets 20 million and the movie makes 500 million Not the same. I watch TSN and Sidney says its not about the money and its all the owners that will not budge? Lets just get a deal done. The only thing he is right if they do not get a deal done they both lose.
if tom cruise's movie tanks, he still gets his $20M unless he's getting part of the gross. that's not how the NHL is now. if the NHL doesn't do well, the players lose some of their paychecks. please don't extend this analogy any further, it's terrible enough as it is.

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no it isn't. it's just fair because it sounds like it's fair. there's no way in a free market that the players would get 50% of revenue.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:53 PM   #6335
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also big movie stars can get points on the thing too, so if it does well they get more

they can also move in production, etc

but w/e, bad analogies are bad

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Old 11-13-2012, 08:18 PM   #6336
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if tom cruise's movie tanks, he still gets his $20M unless he's getting part of the gross. that's not how the NHL is now. if the NHL doesn't do well, the players lose some of their paychecks. please don't extend this analogy any further, it's terrible enough as it is.



no it isn't. it's just fair because it sounds like it's fair. there's no way in a free market that the players would get 50% of revenue.

Oh I agree that in a free market they never get 50%

I just think NHL players are lucky the receive the salaries they do. Yeah the owners gave them to much last time. Now they are trying to correct it. They want baseball type deals without the baseball type of revenue.

We all know CDN's will be back in droves and if you give up your season ticket 10 will be there to buy it no matter what the product on the ice is. I think the US market may take a hit.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:20 PM   #6337
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who cares about the US market tho, there's only 23 teams there...
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:38 PM   #6338
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who cares about the US market tho, there's only t-23 teams there...
...and couuuuuuunting [Bond henchman voice]
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:58 PM   #6339
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They're gonna be chanting "Let's go Blue Jays!" at the ACC any minute now.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:01 PM   #6340
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They're gonna be chanting "Let's go Blue Jays!" at the ACC any minute now.
are they the least bad team in town now? i can't keep up...

Argos maybe?
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:10 PM   #6341
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Oh I agree that in a free market they never get 50%

I just think NHL players are lucky the receive the salaries they do. Yeah the owners gave them to much last time. Now they are trying to correct it. They want baseball type deals without the baseball type of revenue.

We all know CDN's will be back in droves and if you give up your season ticket 10 will be there to buy it no matter what the product on the ice is. I think the US market may take a hit.
what? in a free market they get MORE that 50%. unless every owner, including KHL, colludes. and even then.
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Old 11-13-2012, 09:59 PM   #6342
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:05 AM   #6343
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Old 11-14-2012, 01:58 AM   #6344
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You are in luck because he is playing tomorrow morning. (11:30et/8:30pt)
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:07 AM   #6345
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i know who he is but im blanking on his name

OH GOD WHATS HAPPENING

ITS BEEN TOO LONG
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Old 11-14-2012, 02:33 AM   #6346
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https://twitter.com/strombone1/statu...52601201889281

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Old 11-14-2012, 04:50 AM   #6347
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You are in luck because he is playing tomorrow morning. (11:30et/8:30pt)
How ironic, I'm playing a pickup game in the morning too.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:17 AM   #6348
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ITT, short-sighted comments from one side deserve an equally foolish riposte from the other.

I don't hold it against anyone because I don't think we're really ourselves right now, not to mention we've established a pretty high standard when everything's normal, but the posting during the lockout has really sucked.
One can only post pictures of your team lifting the Stanley Cup for so long before you take pity on the rest of the thread.
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Old 11-14-2012, 05:49 AM   #6349
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They are stealing from you.
What are they stealing from me exactly?
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:45 AM   #6350
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Your happiness.

Maybe your expectations of being treated with respect.

A chance for your team to compete for a championship.

A year's worth of dreams. Moments away from the tedium of existence. A reason to drink. The calmness of the art of the thing. Some humour, camaraderie. A chance to contemplate strategy. A glance at the substantiation of statistics.

The fulfillment of promise. The personal dramas.

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