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Old 10-30-2012, 07:45 PM   #5976
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Re: Bettman Lockout III Thread (aka NHL Offseason: Now & Forever)

There won't be a real Russian debate. Like everything else Russian we'll just defer to what sylar says.

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Old 10-30-2012, 07:46 PM   #5977
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:46 PM   #5978
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Now, if Yakupov was an ethnic Chechen...that might be a bit different.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:51 PM   #5979
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Marat Safin is an ethnic Tatar, did not know that.

Zinetula Bilyaletdinov is as well, and he's the current Russian national team head coach.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:54 PM   #5980
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He's Tatar but I don't think that really lessens his appeal with the Russian fanbase of this league. Darius Kasparaitis isn't ethnically Russian either, but that never stopped the Russians from selecting him for tournaments and I'm pretty sure it didn't hurt his popularity with Russian fans eit

But I'll defer to Sylar for the proper analysis of this situation.
That was more of an aside, Yakupov will obviously be part of the Russian national team and etc. But he's not getting traded, and the Oilers do not need Reinhart.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:59 PM   #5981
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idk, kinda think something built around Yakupov for Reinhart could make some sense, but lol @ getting Tavares out of Brooklyn, especially for that package. can't imagine Gagner has much trade value, unless you're just banking on some lolIsles (or that was an intentionally lolHF trade).
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:00 PM   #5982
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I love the fact that Murs was Kenny Powers before he was even a twinkle in HBO's eye.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:22 PM   #5983
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being tatar doesn't really mean anything anymore. half my family has roots in tatarstan, but they are ethnically russian. it certainly wouldn't matter to any guy who is a part of the hockey elite. they live all over the place, trade a bunch of oil, and don't have their own national team or anything.

kasparaitis CHOSE to play for russia, but his situation is different because Lithuania always considered itself as an occupied nation, rather than a republic of the USSR. regardless, i don't think he's even lived in lithuania since like age 12 when he outgrew all local hockey schools.


ETA: lol at trading Yakupov. first of all, tavares contract is massively valuable. and no way yakupov comes even close to top 25 players under 25 right now. a better option is to flip him for someones entire 2013 draft picks lot.
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Old 10-30-2012, 09:25 PM   #5984
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Old 10-31-2012, 12:02 AM   #5985
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Great costume, Bozie.

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Old 10-31-2012, 12:24 AM   #5986
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Well hey, at least he seems to be taking the quickest fade into the abyss of forgetful 1Cs in professonal hockey history pretty well!

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Old 10-31-2012, 01:27 AM   #5987
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He ****ed Kate Upton. He gets a hall pass for life.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:19 PM   #5988
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Capitals are reportedly one of the "hard-liners" that are continuing the lockout. Leonsis, that fat toad, can not be serious, can he? Unreal.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:45 PM   #5989
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please, what a bunch of malarkey that list of hard-liners is. i don't buy it for a single second.
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:48 PM   #5990
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http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opin...-refrains.html

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While the players believe Boston Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs is calling the shots, an educated guess at the final group includes but may not be limited to Anaheim, Columbus, Florida, the Islanders, Phoenix, St. Louis, Washington and Dallas -- enough to block any agreement from getting done (It's tough to lock it down because owners are forbidden to discuss this stuff. Attempts to talk to a couple were politely shot down).
Any reason you think it's so far-fetched?
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:54 PM   #5991
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Any reason you think it's so far-fetched?
1. bc it's a lolCanadian source
2. this lockout is obv being driven by the money-making teams, whereas clearly the money-losers want this wrapped up asap so they can get back out there and lose even more $$$
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:21 PM   #5992
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Mark Spector looked back and noticed that no defenceman was AHL player of the week last season. Justin Schultz has one already. Here's another stat: Schultz leads the league in scoring with 12 points. In the last 32 years, only three blue-liners have reached the Top 10 -- Steve Bancroft (2001), Chris Snell (1994) and Craig Levie (1981).

wtg TJ, looks like you guys bagged yourself the next Bancroft, Snell, or Levie!

Through its first 148 games, the OHL's fighting numbers are down 30 per cent from 1.11 to 0.78 per game. The league added new rules this year to prevent players and their teams from accumulating high numbers of fighting majors. Not everyone was thrilled, but what seems to be happening is what's best for the game. It's not going away, but it is happening more sensibly.

wasn't someone trying to argue before that the new rules wouldn't change anything?
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:23 PM   #5993
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Any reason you think it's so far-fetched?
first of all, it's 'an educated guess'. there's no source on that claim. so while friedman is probably the best legit hockey journalist, and i think he's got a decent handle on this whole thing, all he's doing is guessing. and he's guessing in the canadian media, so even though we've got at least one canadian owner inside negotiations, his team doesn't appear, but washington and boston do. that's kinda weird. he gives a reason why he thinks minnesota isn't a 'hard-line team'.

the NHL is running the script the NBA ran last time - make people think it's the small market teams who no one likes that are being unreasonable and pin the lockout on them.

72off: can you explain to me why there's no change in how the salary floor is calculated and that in fact bonuses as part of salary floor calculations were eliminated in the last proposal, if it is in fact the small market teams driving this? why would the islanders, who've used bonuses for years to dodge the salary floor, support such a thing when it means millions of dollars in losses for them?
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:45 PM   #5994
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i find it incredibly fishy that no canadian team is apparently interested in the lockout. canada is a microcosm of the nhl minus the true bottom-dwellers. van/tor/mtl grab all the money, while ott/edm/wpg/cal think they just need a couple of winning seasons to be right up there with them. heh, good luck. a couple of million more residents with disposable income would probably work better.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:49 PM   #5995
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He ****ed Kate Upton. He gets a hall pass for life.
Can we start calling him cat daddy?
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:05 PM   #5996
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Mark Spector looked back and noticed that no defenceman was AHL player of the week last season. Justin Schultz has one already. Here's another stat: Schultz leads the league in scoring with 12 points. In the last 32 years, only three blue-liners have reached the Top 10 -- Steve Bancroft (2001), Chris Snell (1994) and Craig Levie (1981).

wtg TJ, looks like you guys bagged yourself the next Bancroft, Snell, or Levie!

Through its first 148 games, the OHL's fighting numbers are down 30 per cent from 1.11 to 0.78 per game. The league added new rules this year to prevent players and their teams from accumulating high numbers of fighting majors. Not everyone was thrilled, but what seems to be happening is what's best for the game. It's not going away, but it is happening more sensibly.

wasn't someone trying to argue before that the new rules wouldn't change anything?
Just wait for our Schultz & Schultz dman pairing.

As for the fighting, so dumb to measure that stat halfway through the season. Every player is just "saving" their fights. The non playoff teams will be setting records for fights per game later on in the year.

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i find it incredibly fishy that no canadian team is apparently interested in the lockout. canada is a microcosm of the nhl minus the true bottom-dwellers. van/tor/mtl grab all the money, while ott/edm/wpg/cal think they just need a couple of winning seasons to be right up there with them. heh, good luck. a couple of million more residents with disposable income would probably work better.
Ya that theory is working real well in phoenix.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:29 PM   #5997
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True story: the Oilers once had a dman pairing nicknamed "happy hour".

Bob Beers and Darcy Martini
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:32 PM   #5998
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He ****ed Kate Upton. He gets a hall pass for life.
It seems like Kate shot way below her possible standards there... she could literally get almost any guy in the world and she gets with a 4th line plug.

But then again most hot girls go way below their standards and **** ******* plugs instead of good, successful, happy, confident men. I guess it's the whole "scared of getting hurt by someone better than them" mentality.

Oh Kate Upton. You so crazy.
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Old 10-31-2012, 06:39 PM   #5999
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Now here are some wheels and a girl who knows to aim for her standards.

In response to that picture of the US fierce fiive in Tampa Bay jerseys I earlier posted...


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WOW. Seguin wheelin' da jailbait. She is totally D. He's already banged Alyonka Larionov and now he has a lock on Aly Raisman. What a champion.
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72off: can you explain to me why there's no change in how the salary floor is calculated and that in fact bonuses as part of salary floor calculations were eliminated in the last proposal, if it is in fact the small market teams driving this? why would the islanders, who've used bonuses for years to dodge the salary floor, support such a thing when it means millions of dollars in losses for them?
ok so a mechanism that helps the welfare teams has been eliminated in the latest proposal means that they aren't the ones blocking an agreement? wat

also it's pretty lol if we're at this point and a big problem is that the owners still haven't agreed amongst themselves what kind of deal they want to get here. like shouldn't that part have been settled a long time ago?
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