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Old 09-16-2012, 10:10 PM   #4801
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Re: NHL Offseason 2012 Thread

i wonder if theyll try to put bulldog games on RDS, I guess they probably already got some kind of exclusivity contract.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:29 PM   #4802
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Re: NHL Offseason 2012 Thread

So...

How many posts will the offseason thread be?

Doesn't seem like they are in the same stratosphere

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Old 09-16-2012, 10:38 PM   #4803
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I hate all of you and your AHL talk. There are 5 NHL teams closer to Southern California than the nearest AHL team (San Antonio).

Also, lol ECHL.

Actually, Los Angeles is closer to Abbotsford, BC than it is to San Antonio.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:45 PM   #4804
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Actually, Los Angeles is closer to Abbotsford, BC than it is to San Antonio.
I don't believe this...

I'm checking now
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:47 PM   #4805
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and just for you br0, i'll go to Heat games with:

Geddy Sven signs
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:10 AM   #4806
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last year of high school, lockout. last year of university, lockout.

sigh, I guess that is good though
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:16 AM   #4807
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last year of high school, lockout. last year of university, lockout.

sigh, I guess that is good though
Ah the old 8 yr plan
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:18 AM   #4808
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Actually, Los Angeles is closer to Abbotsford, BC than it is to San Antonio.
Whoa, you just blew my mind.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:20 AM   #4809
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Re: NHL Offseason 2012 Thread

Dear Sharks Fans,

As we are sure you are aware, the existing Collective Bargaining Agreement between the National Hockey League and the NHL Players’ Association expired on Saturday, Sept. 15 at 9 p.m. PDT.

Without a new agreement in place, training camps will not open as scheduled on Sept. 21 and no hockey will be played until a new deal is consummated and in place.

As of this moment, there is no definitive answer as to when a settlement will be reached but there a few things we wanted to communicate to you.

First off, please know that our fans and partners are our number one priority. Your enthusiasm and commitment to our franchise is unparalleled and something that we do not take for granted.

The changes that are being sought in collective bargaining are being sought in the best interests of the game and all those associated with it.

Updates on the labor negotiations can be found at www.sjsharks.com/cbainformation.

We appreciate your patience and ask that you continue to bear with us. We sincerely thank you for your support over the years – and moving forward.

We hope to see you and NHL action back at HP Pavilion very soon.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:37 AM   #4810
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lol, so much B.S. rhetoric in one email it's hard to read the whole thing without puking.

I know corporations have to put out something, and when they do it's going to be full of political mumbo jumbo like that. But seriously how demeaning is that to the average fan that knows exactly what's going on? You don't give a **** about us. You want our money.

Just once in my life I wanna see some truth in a presser:

"We have a monopoly in the hockey market and have been advised by top business professionals that we can increase our share value by 15%, thereby providing great riches for ourselves, and a more stable NHL for the future. Therefore, we have used the leverage of a loyal fan base to lock out the players and ensure that they forfeit this 15% to us before they can continue getting handsomely paid for the only profession they are qualified for. We'll see you in December."

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Old 09-17-2012, 01:16 AM   #4811
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The Oilers message is only slightly better, in that it's shorter:

A message to our fans and partners:

As you are most likely aware, the Collective Bargaining Agreement between the National Hockey League and the National Hockey League Players Association expired this past Saturday, September 15. Since the two parties were unable to reach a new agreement by that date, a work stoppage is now in effect. We remain hopeful a new CBA will be reached in the near future and the 2012-13 NHL season will commence with minimal interruption.

We assure you our thoughts are mainly about you during these troubled times. Oilers fans have carried our team to greatness many times in the past and you can be assured that we spend every day working on plans to repeat those achievements for you, as soon as possible. We thank you for your patience and your loyalty.



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Old 09-17-2012, 01:33 AM   #4812
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I'm buying junior season tickets this week. **** the NHL
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:55 AM   #4813
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We assure you our thoughts are mainly about you during these troubled times.
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:56 AM   #4814
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Cervenka, Sobotka to Slavia, Plekanec, Tlusty to Kladno, Pavelec to Trinec
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:53 AM   #4815
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lol, so much B.S. rhetoric in one email it's hard to read the whole thing without puking.

I know corporations have to put out something, and when they do it's going to be full of political mumbo jumbo like that. But seriously how demeaning is that to the average fan that knows exactly what's going on? You don't give a **** about us. You want our money.

Just once in my life I wanna see some truth in a presser:

"We have a monopoly in the hockey market and have been advised by top business professionals that we can increase our share value by 15%, thereby providing great riches for ourselves, and a more stable NHL for the future. Therefore, we have used the leverage of a loyal fan base to lock out the players and ensure that they forfeit this 15% to us before they can continue getting handsomely paid for the only profession they are qualified for. We'll see you in December."
To be fair, the Sharks reportedly lost 15 million last year.
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...ut-every-game/
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Old 09-17-2012, 11:18 AM   #4816
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The exile to Europe makes me laugh. If you're willing to play for 100k in ****ing Switzerland, why won't you play for 7% less in the NHL where the average salary is over $2M?
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:09 PM   #4817
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Some twitter speculation that Fehr's next move is to pull the salary cap off the table. This is gonna get ugly.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:14 PM   #4818
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Some twitter speculation that Fehr's next move is to pull the salary cap off the table. This is gonna get ugly.
tee hee

would be fun to go back to the league with the TML spending $100m, and Nashville spending $20m
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:28 PM   #4819
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he'll propose a mlb type system with a soft cap and luxury tax to fund the low revenue teams. create a 2 tier system.
lol owners

good for him. if the owners want to fight, lets lose another season.
**** em.
burn down the league and contract 8 teams. fla, tb, dal, ana, car, phx, cbj, nash
Who's going to miss any of those teams.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:30 PM   #4820
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Who's going to miss any of those teams.
The 200 players who will lose their jobs.
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:46 PM   #4821
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The exile to Europe makes me laugh. If you're willing to play for 100k in ****ing Switzerland, why won't you play for 7% less in the NHL where the average salary is over $2M?
so true.

My bad if this has been covered, but what happens to the guys who signed contracts in other leagues, if the lock out ends? Im assuming they would sign contracts w/ contingencies that would allow them to come back to the NHL if the lockout ended, right? For example, malkin isnt fully committed to be in the khl this year, no matter what, right?
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:49 PM   #4822
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To be fair, the Sharks reportedly lost 15 million last year.
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“We’re OK with that because that’s a decision we’ve made to stay competitive,” said Kevin Compton, referring to the fact his team’s player payroll bumped up against the NHL salary cap.
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“We’re a completely liquid organization and so far have continued to fund operations by choice,” Compton said. “This isn’t Phoenix.”
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Old 09-17-2012, 12:55 PM   #4823
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So basically the owners said that they lost 15 million, it isnt necessarily objectively true, theres no reason to really believe it. the author made a good point - that its an odd time to disclose it - seems like its a ploy for negotiations, and if fans have sympathy for the owners, thats a nice benefit for them also.
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:03 PM   #4824
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It's routine for pro sports franchises to claim they lose money, just as it is for movie productions.


It's pretty easy to move revenue to other entities while claiming "expenses" that never actually come out of pocket (like depreciation on things that don't really depreciate) so the owner still makes money but can claim he isn't.
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:07 PM   #4825
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so true.

My bad if this has been covered, but what happens to the guys who signed contracts in other leagues, if the lock out ends? Im assuming they would sign contracts w/ contingencies that would allow them to come back to the NHL if the lockout ended, right? For example, malkin isnt fully committed to be in the khl this year, no matter what, right?
Yes, they all return when NHL resumes
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