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Old 09-09-2012, 11:43 PM   #4576
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That's 90% of the reason the owners are getting so much hate. The owners are using the lockout as leverage. The players are willing to play while negotiating. Bettman's hard date of sept 15th was a declaration of war.
this is wrong, and you should check what happened when donald fehr was the head of the MLBPA and they played under an expired CBA. once the league starts without a CBA, the players hold a giant negotiating advantage. this nonsense that allan walsh and the players are tweeting about this is nauseating.
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:16 AM   #4577
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That's 90% of the reason the owners are getting so much hate. The owners are using the lockout as leverage. The players are willing to play while negotiating. Bettman's hard date of sept 15th was a declaration of war.
Both sides are to blame.
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:29 AM   #4578
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Both sides are to blame.


[censored] the owners sideways with a pineapple
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:33 AM   #4579
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**** them all, but **** the players especially. None of the guys who've been signing extensions during this posturing interval seem to have any problem saying yes to getting massively overpaid and eating up cap space that keeps jobs available for their fringe comrades. Because, y'know, if guys like BizNasty are allowed to stand in front of the signs with #ThePlayers plastered all over it, that would suggest to me they should represent the interests of every single player, from Crosby to Sestito.

In real world terms, find me a successful business model where the labour retains over half of the company's revenue. Give me a ****ing break.

Honestly, I don't give a **** anymore. The NFL's back, Fehr and Bettman can go **** themselves and I'll be ready for Christmas.
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:34 AM   #4580
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[censored] the owners sideways with a pineapple
They can both get ****ed as far as I'm concerned. Just play hockey.
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:48 AM   #4581
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**** them all, but **** the players especially. None of the guys who've been signing extensions during this posturing interval seem to have any problem saying yes to getting massively overpaid and eating up cap space that keeps jobs available for their fringe comrades.
Oh come on. Guys should say no to $100m cause it makes it harder for other players to make more money? (I hesitate to say "keep jobs" because there's still X amount of roster spots needed in the NHL every year no matter what)

That's COMMUNISM.
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:49 AM   #4582
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Only thing to blame here is human nature. Everyone wants more money, it's not an owners thing or a players thing.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:23 AM   #4583
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Share it fairly, just don't take a piece of my pie
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:38 AM   #4584
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It's a crime
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:53 AM   #4585
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**** the league for ever expanding beyond 6 teams. WHO EVER THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA

GO BACK TO 1967 - PROBLEM SOLVED!
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:35 AM   #4586
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**** the league for ever expanding beyond 6 teams. WHO EVER THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA

GO BACK TO 1967 - PROBLEM SOLVED!
At least the Leafs would finish in the top six again
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:42 AM   #4587
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man, i haven't seen the nhl reg$ collectively so mad since the playoff wangz fan$ came out of the woodworks in '09

hate hate hate
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Old 09-10-2012, 03:20 AM   #4588
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How the hell would that even work? So confused ..
Well, you see, when two people love each other very much...
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Old 09-10-2012, 11:35 AM   #4589
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Just got an email inviting me to do an interview on the radio from an @bellmedia.com email....



Also, if you want to put a sober voice to my drunken posts : http://player.cknw.com/ in just over an hour. (5:30 pst)
...and they just bailed on me due to "the whole bell media thing." Lol bell.

I replied back "Will MacAvoy would have interviewed me."
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:55 PM   #4590
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Oh come on. Guys should say no to $100m cause it makes it harder for other players to make more money? (I hesitate to say "keep jobs" because there's still X amount of roster spots needed in the NHL every year no matter what)

That's COMMUNISM.
I would never say no to someone throwing that amount of money at me. But it's hilarious to watch these guys squeeze their buddies out of jobs by signing the deals during this posturing interval, and then claim absolute solidarity.

They're all hypocrites.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:33 PM   #4591
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http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/83...ba-discussions
Does this mean I get an invite to the espys?
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:38 PM   #4592
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I would never say no to someone throwing that amount of money at me. But it's hilarious to watch these guys squeeze their buddies out of jobs by signing the deals during this posturing interval, and then claim absolute solidarity.

They're all hypocrites.
What buddies? Who's being squeezed out of jobs? Yeah, if you're 37, teams aren't just going to hand you a check for 1.5M and think that you can still hack it anymore.
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:45 PM   #4593
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that's four months before atakdog and the rest of the wings contingent shows up.
**** you, I'm here now

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bc i was sufficiently bored i figured i'd compile the answers from this series into table form, thought it could make for an interesting discussion topic

Team Player Season Game Goal Trade Unsung Hero Franchise Villain Fight Coach Broadcaster Arena Trend Arena Food Swag
Anaheim Ducks Teemu Selanne 2006-07 G5, 2007 WCF Paul Kariya, G6 2003 SCF Selanne from Winnipeg Steve Rucchin Detroit Red Wings Beauchemin v Iginla Randy Carlyle Brian Hayward Visiting Fans Club Level Freshness The Wild Wing Jersey
Boston Bruins Cam Neely 2008-09 G7, 2011 R1 Bobby Orr, G4 SCF Thornton to SJ Ken Hodge Ulf Samuelsson et al PJ Stock vs. Stephen Peat Don Cherry Fred Cusick Rene Rancourt anthem Halftime Pizza varied
Buffalo Sabres Dominik Hasek 2005-06 G3, 1975 SCF May Day Turgeon for LaFontaine / Hasek to Detroit Gary Bettman Brett Hull Ray v Domi I-XIII Lindy Ruff Rick Jeanneret Let's Go Buffalo Flying Bison Aviator Red new jersey
Calgary Flames Jarome Iginla 1988-89 G7, 2004 R1 Theo Fleury, G6 1991 R2 Gilmour for Leeman Harley Hotchkiss Doug Risebrough / Darryl Sutter Iginla v Mitchell Darryl Sutter Ed Whalen The Red Mile Heroin beer varied
Carolina Hurricanes Ron Francis 2005-06 G7, 2006 SCF Martin Gelinas, G6 2002 ECF Primeau for Brind'Amour Glen Wesley Scott Stevens Boulerice v Downey Paul Maurice Chuck Kaiton / John Forslund Tailgating The Natty Green beer varied
Chicago Blackhawks Stan Mikita 2009-10 G5, 2010 R1 Patrick Kane, G6 2010 SCF Zhamnov for Roenick Steve Larmer Bill Wirtz Manson v Stevens Billy Reay Pat Foley The Anthem Beer Indian head jersey
Colorado Avalanche Joe Sakic 2000-01 G4, 1996 SCF Uwe Krupp, G4 1996 SCF Roy from Canadiens Stephane Yelle Todd Bertuzzi Sakic v Gilmour / Roy v Wings Players' Team Mike Haynes Quiet stoicism until the home team gets a lead ????? Burgundy 3rd Jersey
Columbus Blue Jackets Rick Nash 2008-09 G4, 2009 R1 Nash v Phoenix Jack Johnson to CBJ Ken Hitchcock Adam Foote Brassard v Neal Ken Hitchcock George Matthews The Cannon $9 Beer new 3rd sweater
Dallas Stars Mike Modano 1998-99 G6, 1999 WCF Brett Hull, G6 1999 SCF Hatcher for Zubov Sergei Zubov Bryan Marchment Downey v Boulerice Ken Hitchcock Daryl Reaugh STARS! Shiner beer Stuffed Otter
Detroit Red Wings Steve Yzerman 1996-97 March 26, 1997 v Avs Steve Yzerman, G7 1996 R2 Coffey & Primeau for Shanahan Kris Draper Claude Lemieux / Patrick Roy Probert v Domi / Probert v McSorley Scotty Bowman Mickey Redmond The Octopus Little Caesar's Pizza varied
Team Player Season Game Goal Trade Unsung Hero Franchise Villain Fight Coach Broadcaster Arena Trend Arena Food Swag
Edmonton Oilers Wayne Gretzky 1983-84 G1, 1984 SCF Wayne Gretzky, G2 1988 R2 Gretzky to LA Craig MacTavish Peter Pocklington Brown v Kyte Glen Sather Rod Phillips apathy n/a varied
Florida Panthers Scott Mellanby 1995-96 G4, 1996 R2 Bill Lindsay, 1996 R1 v Bruins Campbell for Olesz Dave Lowry Daniel Alfredsson Gudbranson v Downie Doug MacLean Randy Moeller The Rats varied Red Sweater
Los Angeles Kings Jon Quick 2011-12 G6, 2011 SCF Trevor Lewis, G6 2011 SCF Johnson for Carter Matt Greene Bruce McNall Potomski v Kocur Darryl Sutter Bob Miller "ooooooooooo" gimmick varied varied
Minnesota Wild Marian Gaborik 2002-03 G7, 2003 R1 Andrew Brunette, G7 2003 R1 Demitra from LA Wes Walz Todd Bertuzzi Boogaard v Fedoruk Jacques Lemaire Bob Kurtz / Tom Reid High School/College hockey Mini-Donuts North Stars apparel
Montreal Canadiens Maurice Richard 1976-77 December 31, 1975 v Red Army Guy Lafleur, G7 1979 SF #1 pick (Lafleur) from LA Elmer Lach Boston Bruins Robinson v Schultz Scotty Bowman Danny Gallivan / Dick Irvin Ole, Ole Ole Ole Forum hotdogs The Sweater
Nashville Predators David Legwand 2006-07 Feb 28, 2009 v Red Wings David Legwand, G6 2011 R1 Forsberg trade Craig Baugh Jim Balsillie Vokoun v Kiprusoff Barry Trotz Pete Weber / Terry Crisp chants Wendy's Frosty The Mustard Jersey
New Jersey Devils Martin Brodeur 1994-95 G6, 2000 ECF Jason Arnott, G6 2000 SCF Kovalchuk from Atlanta Sergei Brylin Sean Avery Niedermayer v Kamensky Jacques Lemaire Doc Emrick Rock and Roll Part 2 The tailgate Red, White & Green jerseys
New York Islanders Mike Bossy 1992-93 April 11, 1975 / May 24, 1980 Bob Nystrom, G6 1980 SCF Butch Goring from LA Bobby Bourne Dale Hunter Gillies v O'Reilly Al Arbour Jiggs McDonald The Chicken Dance 1990 popcorn The Original Jersey
New York Rangers Mark Messier 1993-94 G7, 1994 ECF Stephane Matteau, G7 1994 ECF Messier from Edmonton Jaromir Jagr Denis Potvin Cloutier v Salo Emile Francis Sam Rosen / John Davidson "Potvin sucks!" Whistle Hill Country Barbecue Market 1991-92 throwback jersey
Ottawa Senators Daniel Alfredsson 2002-03 G7, 2004 ECF Steve Duchesne, April 12, 1997 Yashin for Chara & #2 pick (Spezza) Marshall Johnston Alexei Yashin / Mark Gandler McGrattan v Domi Jacques Martin Dave Schreiber Alfie countdown chant Golden Palace eggrolls varied
Team Player Season Game Goal Trade Unsung Hero Franchise Villain Fight Coach Broadcaster Arena Trend Arena Food Swag
Philadelphia Flyers Bobby Clarke 1976 Jan. 11, 1976 v Red Army J.J. Daigneault, G6 1987 SCF Lindros from Quebec City Eric Lindros Sidney Crosby Hextall v Chelios Mike Keenan Gene Hart Kate Smith Crabfries #HartnellDown apparel
Phoenix Coyotes Shane Doan 2011-12 G6, 2012 R1 Krys Kolanos, March 30, 2002 Briere to Buffalo for Gratton Sean Burke The Goldwater Institute Weller v Blue Jackets Dave Tippett Curt Keilback The Whiteout Macho Nachos white apparel
Pittsburgh Penguins Mario Lemieux 1990-91 G7, 2009 SCF Mario Lemieux, G1 1992 SCF Francis & Samuelsson from Hartford Tom Barrasso Jaromir Jagr Talbot v Carcillo Bob Johnson Mike Lange Impersonating John Barbero Cotton Candy Team Food
St. Louis Blues Brett Hull 1999-00 G6, 1986 R2 Red Berenson, Nov. 6, 1968 The Butcher Trade Bobby Plager Judge Edward J. Houston Chase v Twist Scotty Bowman Dan Kelly The Power Play Dance Toasted Ravioli Gretzky jersey
San Jose Sharks Joe Thornton 2008-09 G3, 2011 R1 Jamie Baker, G7 1994 R1 Thornton from Boston M.E. Vlasic Ed Belfour Murray v Ott Ron Wilson Brodie Brazil PP Shark Chomp n/a teal crap
Tampa Bay Lightning Martin St. Louis 2010-11 G6, 2004 SCF Martin St. Louis, G6 2004 SCF Trade for 1st rounder (Lecavalier) Freddy Modin Oren Koules / Len Barrie Lightning vs Penguins brawl, 1998 John Tortorella Phil Esposito shorts & sandals n/a “rainstorm” 3rd jersey
Toronto Maple Leafs varied varied varied varied varied varied varied varied varied varied varied varied varied
Vancouver Canucks Trevor Linden 2010-11 G6, 1994 SCF Pavel Bure, G7 1994 R1 Naslund from Pittsburgh Thomas Gradin Mark Messier Odjick v St. Louis Blues Alain Vigneault Jim Robson Towel Power Japadog Flying V jersey
Washington Capitals Rod Langway 2009-10 G7, 1988 R1 Joe Juneau, G6 1998 ECF Langway from Montreal Calle Johansson varied Gould v Lemieux Bruce Boudreau Ron Weber “OH!” n/a anything red
Winnipeg Jets Teemu Selanne 1995-96 G6, 1990 R1 Dave Ellett, G6 1990 R1 Selanne to Anaheim Teppo Numminen Gary Bettman Jets v Canucks John Paddock Curt Keilback The White Out n/a Painting of QEII

obv some of them have specific reasons for the answers:

e.g.

- Neely over Orr the guy conceded it was a more modern look at the franchise, Neely represented what the Bruins were all about, etc
- the KANGZ guy basically just 2011 SC trolled his answers, pretty sure it was written by sea weiss
- the Leafs guy (PPP) refused to give just 1 answer for each, but multiple choice with joke answers, etc
- some of them went hipster with the answers instead of making obv choices

so if your eyebrows are raised with any of the answers, then read the article, most go into depth explaining them and are pretty neat to read.

sooooo, thoughts?
i love this and agree with all the Detroit answers

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yzerman over howe
quick over dionne or gretzky
neely over orr
and anything other than camacho's nachos at staples center in la

all abominations
**** that ****, Yzerman > Howe
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Old 09-10-2012, 01:47 PM   #4594
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that table

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Old 09-10-2012, 01:54 PM   #4595
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Sorry Holdem, so will there be another hockey game in 2012 or are we going to have to wait for 2013?
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margins!
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