Nothing official yet, but the twitter rumor mill is saying McLellan is likely staying in SJ next year.

lol, you are kidding right? makarov/fetisov/mogilny/kasparaitis all had a huge cloud over them, and some of them were already all-time international greats, and that was when drinking the night before a game was the norm.

like i said, the next russian who gets drafted or signed is automatically 'the next radulov' or 'the next semin' until proven otherwise. noone ever asks if the next ontrario prospect is 'the next wet island', or 'the next guy who punches a cab driver', or 'the next guy who beds a teammate's/brother-in-law's wife'.

ETA: or worse yet, 'the next brad marchand/rene bourque/rafi torres/matt cooke'!

gmafb!

So the same guys who reported the incident to the team wouldn't have made a stir if nobody was suspended. It was Trotz and Poile's fault here.

Yes, 72. "Wet Island" got Richards and Carter traded. It wasn't the fact that the team was up against the cap and those were the two assets that they could garner maximum fair value from in a trade, albeit to waste the cap space on Bryzgalov (as dictated by the owner).

Nah, it was definitely that they were bad leaders and drunks and stuff that the team directly said themselves. Mind finding me some of those quotes from Flyers management?

The work the Canadian media has done on you guys is truly mind-boggling.

Dumbest thing said in this whole discussion was by sylar, comparing Rene Bourque to Matt Cooke/Brad Marchand/Rafi Torres.

cwice continuously white-knighting for his two favorite players is definitely one of the more entertaining subplots of this discussion

He is correct here, though. It was Paul Holmgren's masterful management of the salary cap coupled with Snider's insatiable need for an 'elite' goalie that sent Richards/Carter packing, not any off-ice bs.

Allan Walsh tweeting that GMs are telling him Rookie Camp will be cancelled

Please, let me know where I'm wrong.

North American = Gritty guy who just wants to win until proven otherwise

European = Only cares about his stats, flight risk (especially if Russian), enigma until proven otherwise

How did your strawman grow such flowing locks and find such a beautiful wife?

This is a pretty lazy take on a generalization only believed by morons like Cherry. Unless that's your point.

For an example from the last couple weeks, many are blowing Kovy left and right for playing with his bad back.

Grind: is that from the Don Cherry Parody account?

Wasn't there a big story last year or the year before about a divide in the room between Richards and Pronger?

Pronger, right after the trade in June:

Richards, in October:

No, why?

Hey goofy, guess what else was right before the trade in June?

http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/2011/5/1...ding-ed-snider

Also, I'm not sure what your point is posting that stuff. It's pointless to speculate about a possible divide or what may have caused it. If anything, it just furthers the two getting a pretty raw deal after taking the team within 2 wins of the Cup as that second article suggested. Regardless of whether management loved the two to death or wanted them out, who else on that roster could they have traded to clear enough space for Bryzgalov and at the same time get a return that wasn't negative value? Keep in mind that they had absolutely no cap room at the time. To make Bryzgalov work, it was always going to be one or both of Richards and Carter leaving Philadelphia, bar none. The rest of the crap is just bull**** stirred up by the media, which is exactly what both of those articles are.

Why, isn't that kind of what this discussion is about?

lol, quotes from the players in their own words = "bull**** stirred up by the media" ?

For the umpteenth time, the owner came out and said he wanted a goalie. The Flyers were up against the cap. The only two players who could return a fair amount of young talent and the cap space necessary to make such a move were Richards and Carter. Both could have been Churchgoing virgins who treated women with the WhiteGoose standard of care, but at the end of the day that's what the Flyers cap situation was. The fact that they were already disliked by Philadelphia media and common scapegoats of the fans wasn't going to help their portrayal.

Since we're putting so much value in quotes, why, according to Richards, did Pronger never call him? Could it be because players don't tell media the truth? Could it be that they were just using the quotes to write a story about a situation that developed behind closed doors, the causes of which they had no knowledge? Could it be that it went in line with their pre-formed narratives about partying, bad leadership, and disappearing in the playoffs?

Nah, those guys partied more than any other young 20s kid would and cost the team a Stanley Cup and were clearly traded because of it.

by the way, thanks to whoever posted that nfb.ca link. i already wasted 2 hours watching among other things Junior . pretty cool. still can't get over the coach looking like tony soprano.

in other news im balling it up in Thailand

and I give my vote to this radulov-kostistyn discussion having its own thread

Nah, they'll just **** that thread up too

LOL canadia!!!!!

seaweiss is to Wet Island, as AJ is to classy Joe...

I mean you could let me know where I'm wrong or make it easy on all of us and get your ****ing shinebox.

If this forum has taught me anything, these don't mix.