iirc, Triumph said it was at least a step in the right direction and it might do something but he thought it was still "very lol" or something like that.

lol wat, might wanna check Calgary's growth over the last decade.

Calgary's turning into Toronto West and it'll continue so long as there's steam from the oil boom. It's a major Canadian market now.

Also, wrt which owners are leading the charge on this lockout, it really has to be anyone's guess at this point. I read this today that pretty much says it's Bettman and JJ running the whole show:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-l...wners_silence/

Agreed, and it's still only the second most valuable franchise in Alberta.

Although sylar does have a point. Maybe they should relocate a team like Winnipeg to a bigger city like Atlanta?

Sooo cliffs on the last 60pages? There's a lockout?

glendale coyotes are not in phoenix, broski.

my bad, i assumed calgary always was and always will be a frozen tundra

you're not making sense. that was in the owners' offer to the players. the idea is that those teams will not take a 'bad deal' - they are not blocking any deal.

It was settled long ago - small market teams will get nothing but a pittance, big market teams (since they are driving this) will get more. I do not believe that those owners will block a potential deal any more than I believed that malarkey about the NBA - if Friedman had even mentioned a source for that information, I would immediately disregard that comment as posturing, much as what happened in the NBA.

What TJay said. Why count now? Wait until the end of the season. Fights will probably be down, but the mechanism is very lol - it should be incumbent on the teams. The players by fighting are just doing what they think their coaches and GM want.

i hate bringing up this link because i feel it's lol, but 72o loves it and it is the only thing we have.

http://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/#p_1_s_d6_

my apologies to edmonton. retracting the apologies to calgary.

Why cant you guys just let me hate my team and owner in peace?

hate away, Murs!

wouldn't be the first time!

meh

In other hockey news, lol CHLPA...

http://www.torontosun.com/2012/10/31...ded-in-mystery

The new fighting rules and all the concussion articles and media-hype from last year definitely are having an effect. The 3-minute-a-game enforcer-goon type of player is increasingly a but of a dinosaur.

Just 2 days ago was interviewing a player who made it to the NHL strictly in that kind of capacity. The "dinosaur" line comes from him...without me having brought it up. The game is continuing to change and evolve. The fighting won't go away forever. But the rules for engagement are way different now.

Hell, we had a game last week with a dirty hit followed by a guy stepping up to fight him. Nothing at all nasty about the fight. No blindsiding or anything. Step up to him quickly and the guy who had the 5-minute boarding major immediately responded and they dropped the gloves. But that guy got a 2 minute instigation penalty...that almost never would have been given before....even last year.

I don't know about the NHL necessarily, but the AHL and juniors I'm pretty sure that fighting now is less than it was 5 years ago which was less than it was 5 years before that.

To reminisce about the good old days, here's a nice bench-clear from the minor leagues in 2004




And one from the NHL from the even older good old days:

lolol Michael Leighton fighting Cam Ward? amazing

for you SoCal fools, where is Ontario exactly? cause they just signed SOME KIND OF PLAYER!!!

Outside LA, near Riverside. Why on earth would someone sign there with no ties to the area??

Guys are in different areas doing whatever training they can or want to. I know they had something going on in L.A. during the summer with a couple of NHL coaches and a bunch of players ranging from NHL'ers like Sidney Crosby to minor league guys.

Maybe he just has a couple buds there and is chilling (and working out and skating, etc). Ontario's arena is pretty new. Nice facility there...I'm guessing it's the best (or one of) in the western conference of that league.

Triumph knows a lot about the CBA proposals, MicroBob types a lot of words, Geddy still the MVP, lol Caps

Hater. I'm about 10 minutes from that stadium.

Of all ECHL teams, he could have done worse. It's not Bakersfield or Stockton, for sure.

To be fair, everything I know about Riverside I learned from watching The O.C.

afaict it's where we get our secretaries and send our car pollution.

Lockout forcing me to watch NBA

**** off lockout

Don't call it that

The first year it was on TSN though.

Wouldn't make a difference.

Take a trip out there with the Mrs., trust me. It's an awesome city. Stampede is the most legit party we throw in this country, anywhere.

Well they did spend to the cap, and still had a few personnel buyouts on their hands, and bought the Calgary Stampeders last year, so that might have something to do with it. 10th in revenues, cracking 9 figures, just behind the Pens and Flyers.

Not really sure that I'm thrilled about the Flames becoming MLSE West, but at least they're not going anywhere. Now, about that antiquated arena...