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Originally Posted by aislephive
Iginla isn't going to fetch a young superstar that is going to carry the Flames to the promised land, so we can curb those delusions right now, as I'm sure many Flames fans have already done.
why not? he's not going fetch many established arb/rfa players, but someone who is just about to hit the UFA market and can't stay on his old team is precisely what he can get. who do you think Iginla can fetch?
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I mean really, what are you arguing? That Staal isn't good enough to fetch a near 35 year old Jarome Iginla? Or maybe that they should hold out for a better offer, or take the gamble of a trade involving picks / prospects?
Staal could very well improve and have his value decrease if it doesn't translate on the scoresheet. With a reduced role, that seems to be somewhat likely.
staal's value isn't decreasing. personally, i don't think a straight swap necessarily makes the flames better. their main issue isn't top talent, but depth.
this is a clear case of both sides want more in return than what they are going to get. yes, you can have it both ways, because the two teams are almost diametrically opposed situations. it's obvious that staal's value is different, depending if he plays for a good or a bad team.
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If Staal runs super hot to start the year I don't think Shero is going to panic and re-sign him fearing that he might turn into a 100 point scorer. He'll wait it out, and when Staal regresses by the end of the year to a more reasonable production level, he'll likely re-sign him to an affordable contract in the $5.5-6m per range.
Having said that, if you really believe Staal is going to have a monster season and that the Penguins should trade him before he plays himself out of their price range, then why don't you think the Flames should pull the trigger on a Staal / Iginla deal? You can't have it both ways. I also laugh at the notion that we would have to add a good prospect and a pick to even it out. I wouldn't do Iginla for Staal straight up.
5.5-6 is way too low. he can beat that in free agency, as long as it's a non-injury year, and certainly if he runs hot. if shero can extend staal now at that price, he should snap-call.
Staal is more likely to have a monster season for pittsburg than for calgary. i don't know if i could express the difference in expected points, but it would be significant.
ultimately, i think JStaal is an asset they are most likely going to lose, so trading him for something wouldn't be bad at all. whether you want to keep staal as a cup run piece for one year, that's really the question. however, from that point of view, i don't see how getting iginla hurts them. if a trade is being discussed at all, iginla has to like the penguins, and would sign an extension in order to win.
you seem to be overvaluing mid-picks and prospects. for a deep team like the pens, those things are less valuable. the flames need depth, so those assets are MORE valuable to them. if staal is likely to leave for more money, or captaincy, or a bigger role, they are not even really overpaying at all.