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Don't bother, I've been saying this forever and it still is always about Ben and Eli whenever you get into it with a Steelers homer.

OK.

Thought that was a given even though I probably voted for Ben in the poll.

So here are the numbers including sacks with Rivers as well:

Career:
Ben - 57.7%, 6.62 YPA
Eli - 53.6%, 6.61 YPA
Rivers - 59.1%, 6.78 YPA

This year:
Ben - 62.3%, 7.01 YPA
Eli - 56.7%, 7.06 YPA
Rivers - 62.0%, 7.67 YPA

gotta be 6'5 to be Super Bowl winning QB these days...that is unless your Eli

that is unless your Eli is/does what?

my vote is for Rivers. Weird delivery, but his accuracy has improved tremendously in recent years.

I don't really see the Rivers=douche thing. While he isn't drew brees (who, when not building homes for the poor, will bake cookies and leave a lil extra dough for you to eat), I think there are a ton of douchier qb's. In fact, I think he got the douche label from talking smack to Cutlahhhh, for which he should have received some kind of award.

Also, for the last four weeks his QB ratings have been 130, 110, 135, and 141 (105 season avg), so he could pretty much be selling children into slavery and I'd love him.

As for the poll--I think I'd take rivers over anyone but Payton (who I think is a douche) and maybe brees (who I wanted to keep in sd but I understood the decision)--So, rivers>>roth>>eli. I'd be fine with Roth as my QB but a lil worried about the lil bro eli.

Big Ben.

Imo, Rivers does not have the intangibles that Ben and Eli have.

Rivers could not lead a horse to water, not in the playoffs anyways.

Some of the weight for his team underachieving every year has to fall on his shoulders.

wtf man, you were supposed to bump this thread with that after Ben had his first completion next week.

Steelers nation has to get their guys in line.

child, please

bump for intangibles

bump for super bowl ringS.

Jack prada, are you THE casual sports fan?

Shocked to find out that Jack Prada is a Steelers fan.

I am a football fan and probably know more about football then 90+% of the people itt.


I am not a Steelers fan per se. I love football.

Imo... Phillip Rivers = Tony Romo. good qbs... seem to be missing that "it" that Big Ben has displayed that he possesses.

If you doubt if Big Ben has it, look at the rings on his fingers and if you still have doubts just watch the last drive against the Cardinals last year in the Super Bowl.

Legends are built in the playoffs more so than by undefeated December records and regular season stats.

Was Big Ben just playing possum against the Seahawks in that Super Bowl? Or was he saving his intangibles, clutchness, and grit for the next Super Bowl?

he's definitely taken care of business the last 5weeks going from great position to nearly eliminated

I can't decide if I love this thread or hate it.

You loved it when Big Ben was doing great (the reason it was made), but now? Not so much I'm guessing.

Talk to me when Rivers has some playoff success.

lol

so what, if the steelers don't make the playoffs this year. they won the super bowl last year with big ben leading them there. what has rivers led the chargers too ???? oh yeah, thats right, he is undefeated in december... roflmao. geez...

you take the guy who is undefeated in december, i will take the guy who drives his team down the field for the winning td to win the super bowl.

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