how much does he clean though

Because if on all those plays where a normal QB would have thrown it away and Russell doesn't, he gets sacked 1/3 of the time, and gets a big gain for the offense half the time, that's a net win for the offense even if it makes his sack rate go up. It's even more of a win if he chooses to scramble more on 3rd down and throw it away more on 1st down. Seems like this should be pretty intuitive.

Kaepernick headed for all-time greatness barring injury, write it down. Luck will also be good, next Griffin.

have all four of them being the greatest of all time

Iggy come on man, you are coasting. Please at least put some effort into your trolling.

I think Kaep has a ton of things going for him.

Great athlete/size.
Great work ethic.
Great QB coach.
Great System.
Great OL.
Great running instincts to avoid injury (could be just variance)
Lately, great Org.

I think what could hurt RG3 is his size, injury issues, and his ORG (this is huge) on top of being in a division that typically where every team is either willing to spend a ton of money and typically always competitive.

The only thing that can hold Luck back I think is his ORG. He's in a weak division. He has incredible everything else though.

I like Wilson a ton, even if he's in the same division as my favorite team. I really don't like Carroll that much as a coach. I think ORG, team, instincts, etc. are great.

Yeah but Kaep has obvious character issues, just ask Rick Reilly

Oh yeah, doesn't want to talk to his mother who gave him away:

Don't think we're going to be able to evaluate these QBs until we get naked pictures of all of them.

I'm working on it

Lol funny that you guys should mention it, when these Kaep pics first showed up ITT I googled for a nude pic of ponder, (def would not recommend it). Found lots of pics of other random dicks but no Ponder. Did stumble upon this nice pic of Samantha Steele which is so much better than anything I've seen from her that I'm not even convinced its her...

Cool. Thanks for explaining that.

Just one more question...where can I find these stats that show it's a net positive for the offense as you're claiming?

wat

and thats def not samantha steele

that's not sam ponder, she's way better looking

Like I said I wasn't convinced it was her but it was one of the first results when googling her as well so I thought it might be legit :/

Bonus pics:

Looking forward to seeing those stats, iggy. You have me intrigued.

that tattoo is atrocious haha

starting to think muscular bodies are inversely correlated with QB success.

how about all the plays that a normal QB makes from the pocket bc A) they continue to focus on the play downfield despite the rush and B) dont have to worry about throwing lanes between OL. Seems like this should be easy to weigh in if you aren't obsessed with QBs who can run faster than a DL

Does anyone know of a site that separates rushing yardage by QBs on designed run plays vs. yardage coming on scrambles? I think that would be really interesting to look at. Not in the sense of league averages, but for each individual QB how many yards came in each situation.

Are you remembering to score scrambles with the x2 Elusiveness bonus tho??

Brady Quinn would agree with this

RGIII needs to listen to his father RGII. If you have already made the 1st down, don't ram your body into the tackler. Don't risk injury for a few extra meaningless inches.

Anything notable from the 4 their first preseason games? Didn't see them play