Best WR (It's not OBJ) - Page 9 - Sporting Events and Fantasy Sports

I guess what I'm saying is that Jordy's skillset is more valuable to a team that has an Elite QB who knows the pre-snap read well enough to execute it and also has the accuracy to deliver the ball where it needs to be. Jordy is nowhere near as valuable to a team with an average to below average QB as the guys that I think are better at the position.

This is definitely true, and on top of that the actual elite wrs would have just as much sick chemistry with someone Godgers.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 12:09 PM

#202

tabbaker

2018 Swami Champion

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 13,788

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wooders0n

This is definitely true, and on top of that the actual elite wrs would have just as much sick chemistry with someone Godgers.

Can we make this happen?

Quote

12-24-2014 , 12:36 PM

#203

Jimmy Proffett

SE's NFL Swami

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 22,322

So the best WR in the NFL according to SE isn't on the Pro Bowl squad?

Quote

12-24-2014 , 12:38 PM

#204

Noze

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 25,711

There's a pretty real chance a WR or two could be in the Super Bowl and he'll still get named. Even then he only played 11 games so I don't know why you're acting like it's some massive repudiation.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 12:39 PM

#205

NLSoldier

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 24,252

Just all the lolz at rmthawk.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 12:45 PM

#206

Steroid Boy

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 42,161

is 6th in dyar and 2nd in dvoa in 11 games good?

asking for a friend

Quote

12-24-2014 , 12:53 PM

#207

TalkingDonkey

RIZZAHHHHHH

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17,137

Jordy Nelson is a top 5-7 WR
Antonio Brown is not a top 5-7 WR

Not sure which one could be more wrong

Quote

12-24-2014 , 12:53 PM

#208

TalkingDonkey

RIZZAHHHHHH

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17,137

oh yeah and LOL at sortbyprobowl

Quote

12-24-2014 , 12:54 PM

#209

Noze

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 25,711

Jimmy Graham and Jahri Evans made the Pro Bowl. LOL Pro Bowl.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 04:21 PM

#210

natediggity

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15,728

Quote:

Originally Posted by chim17

What? Those teams took non wrs. Buffalo traded a ton in a super deep class and didnt even get the best one.

Yes, the bills made a stupid trade. But what no one will ever say is how dumb the 3 teams the bills offered the same deal to made a mistake. Like, it will literally never get mentioned.

If we all lolbuffalo for the trade, doesn't it make more sense to lol the texans and rams for not accepting the offer (at least the jags took a qb). If what buffalo did was dumb then they are at most the 3rd dumbest team from the draft. Houston and the rams being the dumbest.

Anyway, merry xmas chim

Quote

12-24-2014 , 04:29 PM

#211

72off

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 67,775

mental gymnastics required to celebrate being 3rd dumbest...

the Buffalo Bills, everyone!

Quote

12-24-2014 , 04:57 PM

#212

natediggity

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15,728

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72off

mental gymnastics required to celebrate being 3rd dumbest...

the Buffalo Bills, everyone!

Don't you have some world cup thread to do some sweet modding in?

Quote

12-24-2014 , 05:37 PM

#213

A-Rod's Cousin

banned

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 37,130

With Jordy Nelson's skin color I don't think it's possible for him to be overrated.

I remember a few years ago when some announcer thought he was a small slot Wes Welker type. Dude is like 6'3" 225 and pretty fast.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 05:51 PM

#214

Melkerson

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,064

Speaking of size, I think ODB's main problem is going to be his height (I've seen him listed at 5-11 and 6-0). When you're that short there are just going to be some limitations that these 6'3"+ guys just don't have. I still think he will be very good, but I'd be surprised if he were the next Randy Moss (which is how people seem to think of him now).

Quote

12-24-2014 , 06:02 PM

#215

TalkingDonkey

RIZZAHHHHHH

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 17,137

You don't need to be tall when you get open at will and catch everything within 3 yards of you.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 06:05 PM

#216

natediggity

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15,728

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melkerson

Does anyone think he'll be the next randy moss?

Quote

12-24-2014 , 06:12 PM

#217

Dudd

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 54,241

Just went to the NFL's combine site to get his actual height (it's 5'11"), and hahahaohwow at their scouting report:

Quote:

BOTTOM LINE Talented, competitive, productive, inconsistent college split end who projects as a flanker or slot receiver in the pros, where a creative offensive coordinator can take advantage of his run-after-catch skills. Could be a productive No. 3 option with added value as a kick returner.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 06:19 PM

#218

Palo

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,563

#3 in the entire NFL seems more like it.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 06:34 PM

#219

Wooders0n

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 24,820

He's more Jerry Rice than Moss imo

Quote

12-24-2014 , 07:11 PM

#220

Melkerson

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,064

Quote:

Originally Posted by natediggity

Does anyone think he'll be the next randy moss?

Well no one said it explicitly, but Moss is the last guy I remember that people would say was a top 5 receiver (not accounting for age and contract) at the end of his first year. I don't think people even felt that way about Megatron (although everyone knew he would be great, I don't think people felt that good about him that early).

Of course such things are subjective (i.e, how good did people think someone was when they were a rookie) and memories will be clouded by hindsight bias, so it's not really something to try to have an argument over.

However, I think that your question is a good one for the ODB slurpers in this thread to answer.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 07:15 PM

#221

NLSoldier

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 24,252

his similar to moss in that you have to go back to moss to find a WR so dominant in their rookie year. but obviously he's a different kind of receiver than moss.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 08:22 PM

#222

loK2thabrain

Tiger > Jack

Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 23,203

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melkerson

Well no one said it explicitly, but Moss is the last guy I remember that people would say was a top 5 receiver (not accounting for age and contract) at the end of his first year.

Only because the internet wasn't really a thing back then like it is today. 2p2 would have went nuts for rookie Moss.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 08:35 PM

#223

Franchise 60

deliciously angry

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 42,744

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLSoldier

his similar to moss in that you have to go back to moss to find a WR so dominant in their rookie year. but obviously he's a different kind of receiver than moss.

Yeah, this obviously.

People also ignoring the fact that he didn't have training camp (whatsoever) or play the first 4 games. It's pretty crazy how quick he was that good.

Since megatron was mentioned his first 4 seasons are behind the year ODELL is putting up this season. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...m?mobile=false

Quote

12-24-2014 , 08:58 PM

#224

natediggity

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15,728

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franchise 60

Since megatron was mentioned his first 4 seasons are behind the year ODELL is putting up this season. http://www.pro-football-reference.co...m?mobile=false

It's hard to compare odb's season to any of megatron's first 4 just because the rules have changed so much. It's so easy for qbs and wrs now.

Quote

12-24-2014 , 09:57 PM

#225

Franchise 60

deliciously angry

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 42,744

Does the 5 game difference help even things?

I mean we're not talking about the dead ball era or something. Calvins rookie year was the season Brady/Moss demolished the league.

Last edited by Franchise 60; 12-24-2014 at 10:05 PM. Reason: Till they ran into ELIte

Quote

Page 9 of 40

First

4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 19 29

Last

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 9 of 40

First

4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 19 29

Last