He gets 15 targets a game bc he's always open and he catches a huge % of those targets because he has great hands.

He's clearly a top 5 WR right now.

No teef tho :what:

I wouldn't say clearly. Top 5 is an unnecessarily arbitrary number as:

Beckham/Calvin/Dez/DT/Julio/Brown/Green are a pretty close top 7. As long as you don't have anyone else above him it really wouldn't be that bad to rank him 7th

I'd go

1. Beckham
2. Calvin
3. Dez
4. Julio
5. DT
6. Brown
7. Green

Then there's Josh Gordon who is really hard to rank. I mean, AJ Green could actually be better than 7th, he has ****ing Dalton. DT might be overrated too, but he's pretty sick at getting open too.

He's Bo Jackson, only slightly better.

I mean the bar is insanely high at the WR position right now. ODB has had a sick half-season run so far but remember when guys like Cruz or Jeffery have had similar runs. It doesn't necessarily mean they're top 5 WRs. Let's see how ODB does when he's getting bracketed and is every team's #1 priority in the defensive game plan.

For one season next year not taking into account age I'd prob go:

1. MEGA
2/3. Julio/Dez

I think that's pretty clear that they're a cut above the rest. Then there's a crop of 5-6 guys for the next tier that I don't think any of us can really distinguish.

AJG/Demaryius/Evans/ODB/Gordon/Brown/Jeffery you could all make arguments for IMO. Remember the run that Evans went on earlier this year when he had a QB that wasn't an AIDS infested 35 year old.

yeah I agree with this. with gordon floating anywhere from 3 -10. Immediate next tier I'm thinking Jordy, Cobb, E Sanders. then Hilton Evans and Maclin (probably healthy Watkins too)



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pretty sure he's been getting bracketed the last few weeks and still torched teams

imagine when he has an actual nfl caliber receiver on the field with him at the same time

Yeah I mean do people think Rueben Randle is getting double covered or something?

Obviously there is some crazy hype being thrown around. The whole fish on a heater/lets see him prove it argument is pretty dumb though. This isn't some standard new guy on the scene thing. Haven't really seen someone this good this fast since Moss.

Oh, and ODELL is obviously the correct thing to call him.

I hear the old drunk might be allowed to play next year. He is obviously #1 if on the field.

not to mention QB

Blackmon?

This is slightly infuriating. How do you lol buffalo and not lol the 3 teams that buffalo offered the same package to that passed up the deal? If it's such a bad deal for buffalo how do we not mock houston, jax, and whoever picked 3rd?

lol buffalo

Fu jerk!

Not that I disagree with 1. ODB but evans still being massively slept on in overall rankings

Eli:McClown::Peyton::Tim Rattay

What? Those teams took non wrs. Buffalo traded a ton in a super deep class and didnt even get the best one.

Of course those teams deserved criticism on Draft day. Job security had to play a factor. Tough to trade for picks when you're not certain you'll be around to spend them.

Texans locked in on Clowney somewhat defensible, but whats the plan at QB? If you don't like this year's crop trading into next year is best case scenario .

Rams thought they had stockpiled enough and were ready for a run, questionable considering the state of the division / strength of elite teams in the league but again were hurt by injury.

Jags if you're going to pass on the trade at least they passed to take a QB but sadly I think Bortles was going to be available at #9. They probably didn't think the other qbs would drop so far either.

From the Bills perspective they landed a stud, avoided a bottom 10 finish and most importantly are likely to be employed next season, so they probably view it as a successful job saving transaction. Bad deal for superbowl equity but the coaches and front office will be employed next season which looked doubtful at the time.

Ironically Bills #9 spot looks like the money spot of the draft . Of the standout rookies Mack and WRs Watkins and Evans are the only ones off the board but a better WR is available in Odell and PFFs #1 DT Donald also goes within the next 5 picks.

I recall multiple GM's saying Bortles was never ever getting past #4 including the Cleveland GM who said they were looking to trade once Bortles was no longer available. If Cleveland doesn't want Bortles and were obviously willing to trade there were teams who wanted Bortles badly.

There were other GM's who needed QB's that specifically mentioned that once Bortles was off the board they saw no urgency to do anything quickly and thus the other QB's dropped.

15 targets is not enough imo. Dude just catches everything and gets open with ease. He's legit.

He also catches an absurd amount of screens and other high % routes/passes. He's quite clearly a super awesome player, i just think he's a bit overrated as a player due to the offensive system he is in.

Off the top of my head, I would take the following in front of Antonio and not think twice...

Mega
OBJ
Demaryius
AJ Green
Nelson
Bryant
Julio


And then these guys who I personally think are better even tho they clearly don't put up the same numbers.

Gordon
Jeffery
Evans

Obviously health is a factor so Brown is a much safer option than a handful of hte guys in list 1, but he's not a better WR when they're healthy. I think he's about = Cobb. Def better than Hilton tho.

Don't see how the 8-12 range is unreasonable at all.

I think Jordy is getting overrated here. I think a lot of his value is coming from having 6 years of experience with Rodgers and having someone who is that insanely good at QB throwing to him. It's not necessarily about how good of a WR he is as long as he can run the right routes and make the same reads as his QB when a play develops. I think he's a fringe top 10 guy but I don't think he's in the same class as guys like Demaryius or Jeffery.

Getting open and being exactly where your qb wants you to be is a pretty big part of playing wr in the nfl. If I could do that then I would be an nfl wr but I doubt my 5.5 speed is good enough to get open. Catching a ball thrown to you once you're open on the right route is probably the easiest part.

I guess what I'm saying is that Jordy's skillset is more valuable to a team that has an Elite QB who knows the pre-snap read well enough to execute it and also has the accuracy to deliver the ball where it needs to be. Jordy is nowhere near as valuable to a team with an average to below average QB as the guys that I think are better at the position.

lol Ravens, jfc