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I guess it's possible that he is definitely getting charged and the prosecutors are just holding off for some reason and the syndicates learned this and bought down the line.

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12-02-2013 , 07:21 PM

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College football is a variance fest. Zzzzz.

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12-02-2013 , 07:30 PM

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Over the past 5 years the SEC's #2 team is 2-3 in BCS bowls. One victory over another SEC team, one victory over a Big East team, and losses to Big Ten, Mountain West, and Big East teams. 1-3 against other conferences including a loss to a non-AQ team and another loss to a team ranked in the ****ing 20s. Not to mention, of course, the loss to notorious paper tiger Ohio State.

Should Alabama get to go to the Orange Bowl? I'm pretty sure people are tired of seeing these blowouts.

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12-02-2013 , 07:34 PM

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Saban has been preparing for Malzahn's offense forever and exclusively preparing for it for the last month (LOL MSU and Chatanooga) and Auburn just ran it down their throats, but if Urban had a month he would completely shut it down, even though Michigan just put up 41 on him.

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12-02-2013 , 07:40 PM

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It's almost as if you have forgotten that the SEC has won 9 BCS championships versus 1 for the Big Ten.

Strange, I thought it was individual teams that played games, not conference All-Star teams.

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12-02-2013 , 07:49 PM

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Somebody earlier in this thread mentioned NFL draft picks. Well, CBS's little mock draft prospect ranking thingy has 9 OSU players rated as draftable. Auburn has 3. One of whom is the punter.

(FSU has 10, and FSU's top 9 guys are all a round or two higher than their OSU counterpart)

(Fresno State has 4)

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12-02-2013 , 07:53 PM

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Well, Auburn's last NC team only had two NFL prospects, so what I'm taking from that information is that the punter should go #1 overall.

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12-02-2013 , 07:56 PM

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http://www.mrsec.com/2013/01/confere...last-15-years/

Guys, this argument just doesn't work. Give it up. Surprisingly good work by the Big East. Predictably LOL work in the BCS era by the Big Ten and the ACC.

The reality is the the SEC and the Pac-10 are close, and every other conference is far, far behind.

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12-02-2013 , 07:58 PM

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What can I say. Auburn's team is quite young. Many of the team's best players will not be drafted this year.

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12-02-2013 , 08:04 PM

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Nobody is saying the Big Ten is better than the SEC. Big Ten has, for the past 4-5 years, been the 4th or 5th best AQ conference. The SEC has been a top 1 or 2 for a while. A while, but not forever. (note: they weren't in 2004! That **** was not that long ago! I think Auburn fans would remember!)

But the gap isn't that large, and the SEC isn't God's Conference that the Vegas sportsbooks are randomly holding an extremely expensive bias against.

The SEC is a very good conference, with a tremendously friendly media(due to some pretty explicit conflicts of interest) that gets to play almost all its bowl games in friendly territory against a weaker conference.

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12-02-2013 , 08:08 PM

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tremendously friendly media(due to some pretty explicit conflicts of interest) that gets to play almost all its bowl games in friendly territory against a weaker conference.

Isn't this true of the Big 10, the Big 12, and the Pac 10 as well? Or, to be more exact, wouldn't it be true if the Big 10 and Big 12 were better conferences?

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12-02-2013 , 08:11 PM

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7 straight dude. But sure, media bias. GTFO

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12-02-2013 , 08:11 PM

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Uh, the gap between the SEC and the Big10 is pretty damn large. Are you saying there isn't a gulf between the two?

As for the bowls, the national title game is rotated, and they are all weaker conferences.

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12-02-2013 , 08:26 PM

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Isn't this true of the Big 10, the Big 12, and the Pac 10 as well? Or, to be more exact, wouldn't it be true if the Big 10 and Big 12 were better conferences?

I'm talking about CBS and ESPN in the friendly media part and their contractual relationships with the SEC, and I don't think that bowl games are played in the South because the SEC is a better conference. I'm not sure which half of my statement you're asking about.

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12-02-2013 , 08:26 PM

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Missouri, a middle of the road big 12 team, joining the SEC and dominating makes the SEC look week.

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12-02-2013 , 08:26 PM

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Does Raids not understand where the state of Arizona is?

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12-02-2013 , 08:26 PM

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Missouri, a middle of the road big 12 team, joining the SEC and dominating makes the SEC look week.

mizzou just got lucky they were placed in the weeker division

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12-02-2013 , 08:29 PM

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TAMU has also had more success in two years in the SEC than they had in like a decade and a half in the Big 12.

But come on, guys, GTFO, there's a "huge gulf". I heard about it on Cowherd.

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12-02-2013 , 08:30 PM

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that may or may not have something to do with having a heisman winner on their team.

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12-02-2013 , 08:30 PM

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only a heisman winner becuase of the week defenses amirite

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12-02-2013 , 08:31 PM

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Missouri, a middle of the road big 12 team, joining the SEC and dominating makes the SEC look week.

Obviously they draw their power from the SEC mystique.

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TAMU has also had more success in two years in the SEC than they had in like a decade and a half in the Big 12.

Come on, they also hired a new coach and started playing a Heisman-caliber player at QB. You might as well argue the SEC sucks because Mike Shula couldn't win at Alabama.

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12-02-2013 , 08:33 PM

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I'm not arguing that the SEC sucks.

I'm saying that a new coach starting a three star recruit RS FR QB in SEC #1, with that huge gulf over the other conferences, shouldn't be winning Heisman trophies. Shouldn't the SEC speed of the defenders overwhelmed Manziel's tender, non-SEC faculties?

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12-02-2013 , 08:33 PM

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I was asking about your statement that SEC teams get to play bowl games against teams from weaker conferences. That seems circular.

I hadn't considered the argument that bowl games are disproportionately in the South. That's true, but if the SEC has a structural advantage in bowl games, it is attributable less to geography and more attributable to how well SEC fans travel to bowl games. My guess is that an average SEC team would outdraw Sparty in literally every bowl, including what used to be known as the Motor City Bowl.

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12-02-2013 , 08:34 PM

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Hey Raids - can you tell me why you judge everyone from "the south" that posts in SE collectively rather than individually?

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12-02-2013 , 08:36 PM

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TAMU has also had more success in the Johnny Manziel era than they had in like a decade and a half in the Big 12.

But come on, guys, GTFO, there's a "huge gulf". I heard about it on Cowherd.

FYP

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