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He's supposedly implied he's playing some clay stuff, but to my knowledge hasn't been specific.

The theory going around is that he wants to play a few things to protect his ranking so he can go into Wimbledon with a decent seed.

Seed doesn't really matter. He's gonna have to beat both Djoker and Nadal to win it. If he can't easily beat any of the scrubs that he meets before that, then he never had a shot anyway.

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01-27-2019 , 11:42 PM

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Negative. You want to play scrubs in he first few rounds, and not like, guys ranked in the 30s. The difference between playing a qualifier and a top 40 guy is huge.

You're right that in either case the better player should win, but you want the squash match. Time on court and energy exerted matter.

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01-28-2019 , 12:24 AM

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It's insane that Nadal has ELEVEN French Open titles

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01-28-2019 , 12:32 AM

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It's insane that Nadal has ELEVEN French Open titles

So crazy. And if the stupid red dirt championship was only a M1000, suddenly Nadal only has 6 grand slams.

...But I digress.

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01-28-2019 , 01:44 AM

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Sure but the difference in seed between what he gets from playing a few clay tournaments vs skipping them is probably not going to make a difference.

Whether he is 3rd or 10th seed isn't really gonna matter.

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01-28-2019 , 09:39 AM

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just noticed djoker is only 3-5 in us open finals but 7-0 at AO

variance?

is AO surface really that much different than the rest?

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01-28-2019 , 12:12 PM

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just noticed djoker is only 3-5 in us open finals but 7-0 at AO

variance?

is AO surface really that much different than the rest?

AO surface has generally always been considered a little slower than USO. But if that's what gives Djoker an advantage, wouldn't it be even more of an advantage for nadal? Why is it that djoker is 1-2 vs nadal at the USO and 2-0 vs nadal at AO?

I think it's a little bit of variance, but also the new york crowds are more raucus and not as nice to djoker and he gets rustled about it. Then when the crowd sees him getting rustled, they pounce on him even more. I don't think he's in as good of a frame of mind at USO as anywhere else.

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01-28-2019 , 12:24 PM

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Just watched both junior AO finals. Not terribly impressed with any of them. Danish girl that won had a big serve but worse footwork than the pliskovas at her age. Runner up was a canadian with nice looking strokes but no weapons.

Dude that won looked like every italian clay courter on the challenger circuit. Runner up was a USA#1 who hit half of his first serves into the middle of the net.

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01-28-2019 , 01:35 PM

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AO is ridiculously hot some players, perform better in that as well. Some love it, some loath it.

The court and balls will react differently.

Murray for example, similar style to Novak always (until injured ldo) done great at AO, finished runner up 5 times or something.

Although he won US and finished runner up he hasn't done it consistently there, don't think he's even had a SF since he won it.

Has to be something in the water....

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01-28-2019 , 02:16 PM

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It's also early in the season vs late in the season. Which could mean physical differences in the players as far as health, plus mental differences as far as pressure on themselves.

But I dunno.

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01-28-2019 , 02:17 PM

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meh he's only 7-0 because he never had to face peak STAN there

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01-28-2019 , 03:01 PM

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meh he's only 7-0 because he never had to face peak STAN there

Ha.

Head to head:19 to 5.

https://www.atptour.com/en/players/f...inka/D643/W367

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01-28-2019 , 03:20 PM

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The massive time change probably effects some players more than others, and some probably do a better job of managing it than others.

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01-28-2019 , 06:50 PM

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It's also early in the season vs late in the season. Which could mean physical differences in the players as far as health, plus mental differences as far as pressure on themselves.

But I dunno.

I thought about that, but the results don't really show a consistent pattern of Djok playing well early in the year and poorer late in the year. He's won the tour finals 5x, paris masters 4x, shanghai masters 4x.

His results at Doha/Dubai early in the year are nothing special by his standards.

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01-28-2019 , 10:11 PM

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just noticed djoker is only 3-5 in us open finals but 7-0 at AO

variance?

is AO surface really that much different than the rest?

I think partially variance for sure. His USO losses include 2 top-form Nadals (2010 Nadal won Wimby, 2013 Nadal won IW, Canada & Cincy), Stanimal in beast mode in 2016, and a Loss to Peak Fed in 2007 where Novak just wasn't quite there yet. I know he won AO 2008 months later, but he had somewhat of a lull in slam results for a couple years after that. Only one I really hold against him is the L to Murray.

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01-28-2019 , 10:32 PM

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meh he's only 7-0 because he never had to face peak STAN there

Stan became Stan at the 2014 AO when he beat Djok, Berd, Nadal to win.

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01-29-2019 , 03:41 AM

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Hold against him, Murray isn’t exactly a mug and is legit one of the all time greats. He’s just unlucky that he’s in this era of the 3 of the top 5 OAT.

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01-29-2019 , 08:00 AM

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He doesn't hold the loss to Stan against him but vs Murray who has been in a dozen slam finals or something was a real blot.

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01-29-2019 , 09:45 AM

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Ha.

Head to head:19 to 5.

https://www.atptour.com/en/players/f...inka/D643/W367

0-2 in GS finals tho

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Stan became Stan at the 2014 AO when he beat Djok, Berd, Nadal to win.

Yeah, I don't know if people remember how badly Stan was running Rafa off the court in the final before Rafa got 'injured'. The match vs Djok was a rematch of an equally epic 2013 match. Those are two of my favorite matches of all time. I think Stan officially became my favorite player during the 2013 match.

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01-29-2019 , 10:21 AM

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Those old Novak/Wawrinka AO matches tended to be all awesome, no matter which guy won on that particular day.

Wawrinka's run where he beat Nadal was pretty amazing. Wasn't that the year Nadal had the hand-blister "problem" ?

(made it to the finals, so it couldn't be too much of a problem)

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01-29-2019 , 11:11 PM

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Pretty sure Nadal's back tightened up in the 2014 AO final.

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01-30-2019 , 12:35 AM

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He doesn't hold the loss to Stan against him but vs Murray who has been in a dozen slam finals or something was a real blot.

"Hold against" wasn't the best term, I find pretty much all those losses fine. The loss to Stan was weird, but IIRC he was battling toe blisters despite having hardly any match time in that tournament (Only lost 2 sets, and had a w/o, an opponent retire after 6 games, and another opponent retire after 2 sets). Also, it was Stan in STANIMAL mode, hitting a lot of winners and playing quite clutch (Take a look at their different BP conversion %'s for that match).

I guess the Murray L wasn't so bad all things considered, their H2H was very back & forth back then, I thought it was more to Novak's advantage then.

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01-31-2019 , 12:30 PM

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St. Petersburg R2: Meltdown Vera (do we still call her Meltdown Vera?) d. Goerges 46 64 64. She's back!!!!1

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02-02-2019 , 12:33 PM

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https://twitter.com/bgtennisnation/s...564235265?s=19

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02-03-2019 , 01:26 PM

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There's not much happening until early March when the back to back M1000s of Indian Wells and the Miami tourney start.

This month has a few 500s. I guess that's something.

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