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Old 01-02-2018, 12:48 AM   #1
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ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

...Everyone the casuals have heard of is either hurt or a thousand years old, it's time, finally, for a new GS winner.

And that winner will be the former perennial disappointment Grigor Dimitrov.

...thus spoke Zarathustra.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:14 AM   #2
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/42602401

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Britain's Andy Murray has had hip surgery in Melbourne and says he hopes to be playing again in time for this summer's grass-court season.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:16 AM   #3
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Re: ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

Cleary the year of the Querrey lol
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:12 PM   #4
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Re: ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

Feel for Murray, especially when this time last year you thought he could win 2 or 3 slams in a year to to know, not knowing what's going to happen to him.

I'd lay Dimitrov to win a slam, different kettle of fish over 5 sets. He may fluke one like Cillic or Stephens.

Still life left in the old dogs yet, couple more years then it'll be the next gens chance to share a few between them.
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Old 01-09-2018, 10:28 PM   #5
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Re: ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

Will there be an Aussie Open PEEHS this year? It's always been fun.
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Old 01-10-2018, 02:49 AM   #6
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Re: ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

Hope so, i'll be in for it.

Wouldn't mind doing a bracket as well. I'm on holiday at the moment so wouldn't be able to organise/run either.
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Re: ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

I think Sascha Zverev ends up #1 at the end of 2018
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Old 01-10-2018, 04:42 PM   #8
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I think Sascha Zverev ends up #1 at the end of 2018
I doubt he'll get to a slam semi or get another 1000 win.
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Old 01-10-2018, 06:04 PM   #9
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I think Sascha Zverev ends up #1 at the end of 2018
He didn't have any good showings in the Grand Slams last year, right? But he did win back to back M1000s, though. Real ones, against Novak and Fed. Not like Jack Sock who won Paris at the end of the year against a rando young up and comer.
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Old 01-10-2018, 08:07 PM   #10
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He's the next generation of the sport. The big four are fading either due to age or injury and Sascha is the next guy to take the throne. Guy's only 20 and he's in the top 5.
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:31 AM   #11
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Most boring player in tennis John Isner lost to the Korean Chung, with a 6-2 final set.

Nice.
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:58 AM   #12
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Old 01-11-2018, 12:31 PM   #13
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Re: ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

wheres all the hot ladies in the OP or the thread savers?#feelsbadman
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Old 01-11-2018, 03:04 PM   #14
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...Everyone the casuals have heard of is either hurt or a thousand years old, it's time, finally, for a new GS winner.
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The big four are fading either due to age or injury
Men's Australian Open 2018 - Outright Winner
Roger Federer +180
Rafael Nadal +400
Novak Djokovic +500

Men's French Open 2018 - Outright Winner
Rafael Nadal EVEN
Novak Djokovic +500

Men's Wimbledon 2018 - Outright Winner
Roger Federer +275
Andy Murray +400
Novak Djokovic +400
Rafael Nadal+600

Men's US Open 2018 - Outright Winner
Novak Djokovic +300
Rafael Nadal +400
Roger Federer +450
Andy Murray +600

2017 Grand Slam Champions
2017 US Open Rafael Nadal
2017 Wimbledon Roger Federer
2017 French Open Rafael Nadal
2017 Australian Open Roger Federer

Outside of a few by Wawrinka, Cilic & del Potro, the Big Four have won every single Grand Slam in the past 12 years (43/48). Including Wawrinka as a B5, as he's won just as many GS's as Murray, it's 46/48 and all 12 of the past 3 years.

It's still their time. Yes, they are getting old and injured, but one of them will still come through. Team Old > Team Young.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:30 PM   #15
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Re: ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

If the line is 2.5, will the olds hit the over on Grand Slams won this year?

I say nay. Murray is perma-done, Novak sucks now, and Fed and Raja can't do it all again this year.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:32 PM   #16
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wheres all the hot ladies in the OP or the thread savers?#feelsbadman
Oh yeah, I forgot. There's women's tennis too. Like ladies' professional wrestling, it's sort of fun to watch them do their thing, but I'm not really that into it.
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:58 PM   #17
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If the line is 2.5, will the olds hit the over on Grand Slams won this year?

I say nay. Murray is perma-done, Novak sucks now, and Fed and Raja can't do it all again this year.
Easy.

3.5 is a tough one though.
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Old 01-12-2018, 01:39 PM   #18
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Agree with kingweed. Esp if you include players 29+ on Team Old (Wawrinka, Cilic, del Potro), since they are indeed old.
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Old 01-12-2018, 04:27 PM   #19
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Based on the rough lines patron gave I got the big 4 winning 3+ slams at ~60%. Pretty big dog for them to win all 4 though.
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Old 01-12-2018, 05:18 PM   #20
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Re: ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

Thanks for the calcs. There's a pretty big overround in those lines though. I got them from Bovada, since they had odds for every GS this year. Pinnacle had sharper AO lines, but no lines for the others. They were close enough to post though, since the initial point was simply to confirm that the Olds are the favorites for every GS this year.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:00 PM   #21
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Re: ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

I lengthened them a little in my calculations as I was assuming they weren't very generous odds. I probably still overestimated the chances somewhat but I doubt it's by enough to make under 2.5 a favourite.
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Old 01-12-2018, 07:35 PM   #22
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Damn I'm in the camp that we see the tide turn a bit this year
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Old 01-12-2018, 09:47 PM   #23
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Re: ATP/WTA 2018: The Year of the Dimitrov

The "olds" is about the Big 4 and how many M1000s and Grand Slams they've won, not actual just age.

So we (Young Guns) should get Wawrinka because dude can't win a M1000 to save his life. Delpo sucks and is a non-threat, so he can be an old since he won a 2009 Grand Slam.

I stand by the 2.5 line. I say they get the under. No way Raja, Fed, & Djokavic win 3. Delpo sucks as previous stated, and Jaime Murray has a better shot than Andy.

I know this looks like I'm just baiting someone to challenge me to put money on this, but that's not my goal.

If I were betting, I would probably say the Olds are the big 4 and Delpo, Wawrinka is a neutral and counts as a 0.5, and the Youngs are everyone else.
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:00 AM   #24
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Draw is out!

https://ausopen.com/sites/default/fi...2018_01_11.pdf
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Old 01-13-2018, 05:37 AM   #25
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Will there be an Aussie Open PEEHS this year? It's always been fun.
This thread reminded me I'm supposed to do that!

It's up for 2018: Australian Open PEEHS

Little over 36 hours to get those responses in!
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