Draft order (I swear I really did rand it):

1. Karak
2. rmthawk and SuperUberBob
3. exec and Steve Yzerman fan
4. Dudd and Triumph
5. Shark Doctor and ArmChair
6. Riverman and Tuq (the DREAM TEAM)
7. CDL and MrWookie
8. loosekanen and Larry Legend
9. PlzBeALevel and vyk07
10. Grando
11. Ray Horton

5 rounds and will add people at the end of the first round if they really want in

I am on the clock. 4 hours between picks. Please PM the people after you once you've picked.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0

lol karak

Subscribed. Can think of a few definite first rounders, but not a consensus #1.

Lol riggaments. Think there's a fairly obv number 1

Was there a thread purge in September? If so, is there an archive for those threads?

100% karak frozen enveloped this ****

Clearly trying to mess with those of us who posted to subscribe.

I got my #1, doubt its overall #1 though.

Goes without saying but the quality of the draft is highly dependent on writeups. Put in some effort fellas.

With the first pick in the 2+2 All Time Thread Draft, Team Karak selects



http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...-stolen-99247/

By far the most impactful thread in 2+2 history.

The OP (edited after the fact to include a summary) raised serious suspicions about some of the play in high stakes UB games. Throughout the thread, posters collected and analyzed data that proved beyond any doubt there was cheating, through the use of superusers, at these games. Players were scammed out of millions of dollars. Several posters dedicated themselves to the pursuit of the truth and eventually implicated the ownership of AP/UB in the scam. Many of these people, such as Russ Hamilton, have never been held accountable for their actions.

This scandal changed the face of online poker as we know it. It also resulted in mainstream news articles, a full feature documentary and a 60 Minutes segment on CBS. When it comes to impact on the "non-poker" world, no thread has ever reached this far.

Washington Post timeline (which footnotes TwoPlusTwo): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...time-scam.html

Slate article: http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/201...ever_ends.html

Nat Arem blog breaking down the math: http://www.natarem.com/2007/10/17/ab...ating-scandal/

60 Minutes piece:

"UltimateBeat" documentary trailer:

Yeah. Crazy thing is that Russ Hamilton not only got away with stealing millions but regularly shows his face at poker events with no negative consequences.

Didn't think of that one, but yeah that's a terrific thread. When UB accidentally sends the HHs with all the hole cards - incredible.

Subscribing AGAIN

sorry

I'm still not sure if there's a true consensus number one or not, I'll have to see the rest of the first round before I form a firm opinion on that, but I can't argue with the pick.

LOL that Karak came up with this idea and gets the first pick. Fantastic. I might just heckle this thread if that's cool.

Pretty meh on that pick. Def first round value but i don't think it was worth rigging yourself #1 overall

I wasn't sure how the drafting would go, but this was also my number one

I also think after 5 rounds you could have daily picks for at least 3 more (maybe 5) to make a 10 pick list

Actually I don't know how to heckle this thread without giving away undrafteds, so I guess I won't.

So, you'd call the pick Ewingesque?

A grim reality.

Just read the Ultimate Bet thread. As a relative newcomer to poker I was completely unaware of it. Heavy stuff thanks.

Did you ever, I dunno, consider someone not involved with directly running and participating in the draft randomize it instead?

first page is kinda surreal after the fact. haven't actually looked at that thread in forever