Why is there still talk about Kubiak being anything but a horrible GL playcaller? Wasn't the debate ended with the Andre Johnson on the bench as a feint, HB pass to no one debacle?

Well we kinda forgot about how bad he was last year since Foster beasted in the red zone. But now he's out so it's evident again.

Totally agree with the end of half strategy employed being a 'yell at the TV moment' for myself.

Both are great posts.

Adv nfl stats EPA calculator estimates an average team vs an average defense will score .58 pts on average with 1 minute left in the 2nd quarter, 1st and 10 from your own 25.

"I don't know what to say, really." -Tony D'Amato

I challenge the notion that Sean Payton doesn't decide to go for it on 4th and 2 if Kubiak calls a timeout there.

Try harder at trolling? Losing this way sucked. That being said, it is easy to see our Texans competing at a high level.

This team has all the signs of being a legitimate contender; the statistics back up the relatively awesome results we have seen produced on the field.

PS. How bad is Houston sports radio? I don't even try anymore.

Not trying to troll but when you say things like "this was a great result" that's just a bad comment and I'm sick of hearing locals talk like that. "This team can really move the ball!" WOW. Rich Lord said "Hey they were expected to lose that game and they lost. What's the big problem?" So I was just wondering if you were him. As if winning just isn't even a damn option.

"Competing at a high level"... I mean if your goal is to compete at a high level, fine. I think our goal is to win games.

"Legit contender". For what, exactly? The division is being handed to us on a silver platter this year and there's a non-zero chance the Titans finish on top. They've already beaten the Ravens, who we have to play and will probably not beat.

Look how quick other teams have turned things around. New Orleans, Detroit, Buffalo, etc. Texans are still referred to as "up and coming" for like the 5th straight year. They were big favorites in the 4th quarter yesterday and looked like armless drooling children. Payton and Brees had their way with them. Schaub wasn't even rushed and threw a HORRIBLE INT. He also almost threw another one that turned into the flukiest TD ever. He threw a ball at the back of Tate's feet. He was throwing touch passes behind guys and not hitting them in stride. He made one amazing throw to Casey. Then tried it again later and the defender swatted it away. Yet Brees will run the same 2 point conversion on us and we look like clueless idiots.

When a team runs the same 2 point conversion play on you and it works you are a joke of a team still. Brees didn't even LOOK at another player he just ran sideways and threw it to I forget his name but the guy who butt-raped us.

Casey had a huge game, never heard of him. What the hell was it where the pitched it to him in the backfield? And it worked, lol. Not very fast though.

LOL I love your enthusiasm.

You might be right about Peyton going for it. I love his affinity to risk. FWIW, the Saints going for the 4th there isn't a terrible result for the Texans.

PS. Never said 'great result', although it was a promising result. A team would have to be outlierishly fortuitous to win every game, especially the toughest of road games.

So what if he does? What do you think the chances are of

A)A successful conversion
B)Actually scoring a TD (which is the only result that is worse than what actually happened)?

My favorite drive of the game:

1st and 10 at HOU 36 (Shotgun) D.Brees pass short left to L.Moore to HST 28 for 8 yards (K.Jackson). Pass 5, YAC 3
2nd and 2 at HOU 28 (Shotgun) D.Brees pass short left to L.Moore to HST 20 for 8 yards (K.Jackson). Pass 7, YAC 1
1st and 10 at HOU 20 (Shotgun) D.Brees pass short left to L.Moore to HST 16 for 4 yards (T.Nolan). Pass 4, YAC 0
2nd and 6 at HOU 16 (Shotgun) D.Brees pass incomplete short left to D.Sproles.
3rd and 6 at HOU 16 (Shotgun) D.Brees pass deep middle to L.Moore for 16 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Pass 16, YAC 0 26 30
TWO-POINT CONVERSION ATTEMPT. D.Brees pass to L.Moore is complete. ATTEMPT SUCCEEDS. 26 32

Lance Moore doin' work.

The way Sproles was playing catching those little short passes, I'd say their conversion success rate would have been extremely high. Like maybe 85%? I don't know. Can't say what their chances of then scoring a TD would be but they would have had plenty of time to do so. And even if they later decide to kick anyway they likely had run off a lot of time and thus negated the Texans chance to storm downfield and gain more points.

You yourself said the Texans should have played for a scoring drive there so if they (Texans) took a timeout and Payton kicked, the Texans could have ended up scoring 3 or 7 points before the half. The way they were moving the ball that was a high likelihood.

85% seems waaaay high. I think even like 60% is generous. New Orleans' conversion rate on 4th downs over the last three years is ~40%.

I think, roughly calculating, they'd have to be like 60% to convert and then like 75% to score a TD for taking the timeout to be breakeven.

My favorite drive was with 12 minutes left in the 4th quarter up 9 they tossed a ball to Tate who just flat out dropped it and it would have been like an 8 yard gain with the clock running. 2nd play run for 1 yard. Third play pass incomplete. Punt. Nice little 1:01 drive there with 2 passes and 1 rush up 9 with 12 minutes left.

Good job, guys. How much time can you run off the clock with 3 straight runs, like 2 minutes?

Ehh, I'd want to see conversion rates of 4th and 2s and excluding those with a short field (goal line attemtps).. Not to mention Reggie Bush sucks and Sproles was playing great yesterday. Seems like a dunk for them to pick up 2 yards with a quick toss to him. Honestly I thought he was gonna go for it and I was worried.

They've worked him in a bit over the last couple years. He was kind of a project player they selected in the mid to late rounds (iirc). Kind of a late developer out of Rice U. He was a minor league pitcher in the White Sox organization and is just a good athlete who I think they needed to give time to really learn the position at this level.

He ran a ball and though he wasn't fast he is obviously large enough to truck a guy and gain an additional 2 yards after contact. But what I saw yesterday he looked really smooth. I wonder how good Owen Daniels ever recovered from his knee. I kinda think they may be trying to phase him out now. I guess they are kinda using him as an H-back?

Daniels looked pretty damn good yesterday. He and Andre Johnson were the Saints' biggest matchup problems.

It does seem they're using Casey as an H-back. He played TE his first two years in the league but they have him listed as starting FB now, but they move him around a lot from what I've seen.

Casey was the do everything guy at Rice. They had him line up everywhere, literally. Direct snaps, tailback, SE, KO/P return it was pretty absurd.

Daniels did look good yesterday but in 2009 before his injury he was averaging like over 100 yards per game through half the season. He used to be a monster.

A lot of Casey's yards yesterday were also on a blown coverage play with like a lob to him on the sideline then like 40 YAC

Yeah and that's why I called him slow. Most tight ends score there, maybe not most fullbacks. Interesting player though.

was the stat I just saw right? Kubes is 1-18 (or something close) on the road against teams that ended the season with winning records?

You sure about that? Some skinny defender caught up to him and he slowed down to cut across and gained some more yards before another defnder caught him. I mean when you're running like 60 yards I don't think many 250 pound guys are gonna get to the end zone before a 190 pounder catches him.

Sun Tzu was right. I'm pretty sure Koobz chalks up a loss before the game ever starts. He feels like his team doesn't deserve to win so I'm pretty sure he's mentally defeated before they ever take the field.

Firing Kubiak in favor of Wade Philips worth at least 1 win. Wade ****ing Phillips.

I don't know what the **** is wrong with Texans ownership, how many loltastic losses and paths to 8-8 does it take to fire this ******

No way do I want Wade HCing this team.

Kubiak must have pics of Bob McNair's micropeen or something.