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01-22-2012 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime
i dont know if youre kidding, but ummmm its a game played by OTHER men...relax
This probably makes it sound worse than what it actually was, but all of this did happen. I promise I'm not crazy, just a little passionate about sports I guess.
01-22-2012 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rmthawk64
This probably makes it sound worse than what it actually was, but all of this did happen. I promise I'm not crazy, just a little passionate about sports I guess.
If my team lost like that something in my house would have been shattered.
01-22-2012 , 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by maulaga58
Ravens were the better team. Pats ran really good. They will probably run this good in a couple of week in SB also.

brady gave them free INT and kickoff for fumble inside 25...yet they won.


i have no problem with somebody saying this game could have gone either way, but if the ravens were better, why did they lose?

lets not forget that call by the refs on the gronk catch that cost them a few in expected points.

i will of course listen to your 'pats ran really good' arguments.

btw, stupid coaching decisions dont count as running good...its part of the game.
01-22-2012 , 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime
brady gave them free INT and kickoff for fumble inside 25...yet they won.


i have no problem with somebody saying this game could have gone either way, but if the ravens were better, why did they lose?

lets not forget that call by the refs on the gronk catch that cost them a few in expected points.

i will of course listen to your 'pats ran really good' arguments.

btw, stupid coaching decisions dont count as running good...its part of the game.
Kicker missing a chip shot field goal. First TD drive bs illegal contact call cost Ravens INT. Inopportune false start penalties forcing Ravens out of field goal range. Ravens are not signigantly better just think their better.
01-22-2012 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by maulaga58
Inopportune false start penalties forcing Ravens out of field goal range. .
12th man ftw!!!!!
01-22-2012 , 10:50 PM
If you're better and finish +2 in turnovers...how is it even close at the end?
01-22-2012 , 10:59 PM
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Kicker missing a chip shot field goal.
skill based, not luck.

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Inopportune false start penalties forcing Ravens out of field goal range.
lol, see above.

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First TD drive bs illegal contact call cost Ravens INT
call was CLEARLY correct.


great case though.

ravens could have easily won that game, yes...you can call crap like fumble recoveries or terrible reffing "running good" not missed FG's and false starts...lol really?

Bal ran good because if brady doesnt throw two picks pats win by more....see what i mean?
01-22-2012 , 11:22 PM
illegal contact call was definitely correct on the first "INT"

i thought the teams looked mostly equal, because Brady didn't play that well. Pats would be favored again in a rematch.
01-22-2012 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_
illegal contact call was definitely correct on the first "INT"

i thought the teams looked mostly equal, because Brady didn't play that well. Pats would be favored again in a rematch.
ya brady had off day, even considering defense.

play the game again, is it 7? i dunno, probably.

either way, epic rematch.
01-23-2012 , 12:23 AM
Yeah Webb mauled that WR. Easy call there. There was a missed DPI on the pats IMO on one of the pages that Dickson dropped that would have made a little difference. At the end of the day it was on of if not the best game all season across the board. Flaaco played the game of his life and was let down by Evans, Cundiff, and what I thought were some poor coaching decisions (going for it on 4th and 6th from near mid field not one of them) I thought we did everything we needed to do today to win... accept actually win. Id much prefer a flacco performance like last time and super bowl appearance then him shutting up all of.the.critics and the Ravens getting their due respect now while sitting at home in 2 weeks.

Beyond depressing game that I'm sure ill never live down. you don't get these kind of shots at the big one very often and we 100% had a team capable of winning it this time unlike previous years. Respect to the pats on a hard fought win and an awesome game. please refrain from.being ignorant douches for the following 2 weeks even.though I recognize the comediac value of me blowing up is probably going to be worth it. at least recognize that you were lucky to come out on top while I recognize we were a little lucky to be in it at the end. its all variance and I really feel it was spread evenly at the end of the day in this game.

I can't end.this without a big **** YOU to Lee Evans and Billy Cundif. Evans does his best Houshmanzedah impression by being hurt/invisible all year and dropping playoff extending/game winning/super bowl ticket punching passes to end our season. Great pickups jerkoffs.
01-23-2012 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
No matter what, Pats homers cannot say they earned this win.
Patriot homer and im saying we earned this win. Just didnt earn it the way everyone expected them to. Patriots Offense was terrible, and not because of pressure, Brady had a lot of time, And most of it there was no pressure on him from the ravens, But he just looked like he was nervous and was never settled in the pocket.

Brady's got saved on a penalty on an interception. Then the next interception he threw was pretty bad, but also a great catch by the DB, The interception after that im giving brady the benefit of the doubt that he knew he had the penalty for offside so was just taking a few shot. But the last interception when he threw it deep to slater was unforgivable, a normal patriot drive seals the game there, But instead he throws deep into double coverage to a guy with 1 catch all season. Brady should have known better then to throw that ball.

But to say they didnt earn it is to far imo. Sure the patriot offense was way worse than normal. But it was still better than the ravens offense. The ravens got gifted with the brain fart on D after 3 3 and outs that gave up that bomb to torrey smith, Talk about wide open. The TD then scored by torrey smith 9 outta 10 times hes taken down when he catches the ball for a loss, the fact he broke the tackle and got the 30 yrd TD was great play by him but oh so lucky. Then to get the ball inside patriots 30 due to the fumble on kick return.

Ive been saying that for Ravens to win everything needed to go right for them. And everything did go right for them but they just didnt pull it off. But man the the patriot D step up. Vince wilfork was like a man on a mission. Everyone all week was talking about hot NGata will make an impact, But they got the wrong tackle, Vince ripped that game apart.

Patriots wrapped that game up twice, When spikes got the interception, and then when wilfork got his hands on flacco and caused him to throw it out of bounds.

Im a patriots homer and proud. You say the patriots didnt earn the win. I definately think otherwise. Ravens D werent good, Just brady was below par/ Ravens Offense werent good. Most of their positive plays it looked like flacco was a headless chicken running around and Hitting lucky passes ( I know most of his passes werent lucky passes just saying what it looked like).

I may not be totally right with the rules and will totally accept if im wrong, and havent read this thread to see if i am wrong, But that gronk catch that was ruled incomplete where his foot is down as he catches it and other foot gets down in bounds when he moves imo should have been challenged as it totally ruined the momentum that the patriots had going at the time.

I by no means think that this was a great patriot offensive display, But the D showed up,Brady had a bad game, But to say they didnt earn it is unfair imo. They just didnt earn it in the way everyone thought they should have.
01-23-2012 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DannyOcean_
illegal contact call was definitely correct on the first "INT"

i thought the teams looked mostly equal, because Brady didn't play that well. Pats would be favored again in a rematch.
If brady played to even 80% of his abilties this game is blowout imo. Brady looked like flacco in the game, Nervous in the pocket even when noone was around him, Actually flacco doesnt even look as scared as brady did today.
01-23-2012 , 12:39 AM
Not that I care because I hate both teams but the 3rd down play by Moore was most definitely illegal contact and not called. It was just as much illegal contact as the one called in the 1st half that nullified the int.
01-23-2012 , 12:49 AM
You can't give that little respect to the Ravens D. yes Brady wasn't "himself"today but this is a recurring theme now vs our defense. He did what he bad to do to get the win no doub... I just feel your slighting our d a little but giving it little credit for Bradys performance.
01-23-2012 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by jh12547
Not that I care because I hate both teams but the 3rd down play by Moore was most definitely illegal contact and not called. It was just as much illegal contact as the one called in the 1st half that nullified the int.
That's the one I was referencing in my post a couple posts up. thanks for.the site.
01-23-2012 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rmthawk64
You can't give that little respect to the Ravens D. yes Brady wasn't "himself"today but this is a recurring theme now vs our defense. He did what he bad to do to get the win no doub... I just feel your slighting our d a little but giving it little credit for Bradys performance.
Im sorry but i give no credit to the ravens D here. If they were constantly gettin pressure on brady and making him nervous then yeah i give credit to the D. But brady was inaccurate and trigger happy when there was no pressure on him, so this is definately more of brady having a bad game then the ravens D having a good game.

Not saying the ravens D didnt play good but it is definately more of brady just playing bad.
01-23-2012 , 12:56 AM
the ravens D was insane, as expected, and the only reason i say brady was off was that moronic throw to slater which was a HUGE mistake.

i have no qualms crediting the rest of his subpar performance to the ravens. even if the looked rattled when there was no pressure, its because hes playing the ravens.
01-23-2012 , 12:58 AM
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Im sorry but i give no credit to the ravens D here.
well then, you are being ridiculous.

he definitely released the ball early a few times, but thinking that had nothing to do with facing a D as ferocious as BAL's is silly.
01-23-2012 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Willd
It wasn't a TD on the 2nd down btw. 0% chance it gets overturned on review.
What is actually the rule? How long do you have to hold it for it to be a TD?
01-23-2012 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime
well then, you are being ridiculous.

he definitely released the ball early a few times, but thinking that had nothing to do with facing a D as ferocious as BAL's is silly.
You just said that brady was nervous while not getting any pressure because it was the ravens D he was playing.

Im sorry but giving crediting a defense for brady being bad not because of their play in the game but because of their reputation is ridiculous.
01-23-2012 , 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
What is actually the rule? How long do you have to hold it for it to be a TD?
clear possession, two feet? i think its a little ambiguous but i have to agree with it not being overturned.

im obv not impartial, but as a football fan i would be a little disgusted if that was ruled a catch.
01-23-2012 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime
clear possession, two feet? i think its a little ambiguous but i have to agree with it not being overturned.

im obv not impartial, but as a football fan i would be a little disgusted if that was ruled a catch.
In the very least it should have been reviewed.
01-23-2012 , 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Prawney
You just said that brady was nervous while not getting any pressure because it was the ravens D he was playing.

Im sorry but giving crediting a defense for brady being bad not because of their play in the game but because of their reputation is ridiculous.
youre acting like they werent getting pressure...they were.

also, did you see the coverages when he did throw? the defenders were on top of the receivers all day.

Baltimores defense played really well today and brady gave them ONE gift...anything else i feel they earned.
01-23-2012 , 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jh12547
In the very least it should have been reviewed.
I disagree. You might have seen the replay in slow-mo a few to many times. But in real time its obvious that its an incomplete pass.
01-23-2012 , 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime
youre acting like they werent getting pressure...they were.

also, did you see the coverages when he did throw? the defenders were on top of the receivers all day.

Baltimores defense played really well today and brady gave them ONE gift...anything else i feel they earned.
Brady has played so much better against teams who got more pressure on him and who had better coverage. Brady was totally off his game today, But i really feel it wasnt due to anything that ravens did today.

I think it had more to do with his mind playing games with him after what happened in 09 and his early interception. Im by no means saying the ravens werent good on D, But they werent good enough on D to explain how bad brady played.

      
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