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Aaron Hernandez appealing guilty verdict, butnahhhhh (yes maybe) Aaron Hernandez appealing guilty verdict, butnahhhhh (yes maybe)

04-18-2015 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by stealinpotatoes
What screwed up the OJ trial was that LA cops were provably racists and almost without doubt planting evidence and everybody who lived there knew it. Also OJ was nothing like Hernandez. Much more of an icon.
The big mistake in the OJ trial was the decision by Gil Garcetti, the DA, to appoint Marcia Clark as the lead prosecutor. For all her talents and abilities as Garcetti's top ADA, she was simply not cut out to argue that case in front of that jury. The snide comments she made - especially the caustic remarks directed toward F. Lee Bailey - did not sit well with jurors. As it became increasingly obvious that she was losing the case, her mocking derision became even more damaging to the prosecution. This, combined with the testimony/perjury of detective Mark Furhmann, virtually guaranteed OJ would walk.

Mr. Garcetti should have chosen a lead prosecutor who would have come across as being pained at having to try a role model - a defendant truly loved, admired and respected not just by members of the jury but by people all over the country. To neutralize OJ's defense team, the prosecutor would have showered Mr. Cochran and Mr. Bailey with praise as the truly great lawyers and advocates that they are - and how much he respects their skills and abilities. (Ms. Clark derisively comparing the size of a glove to a part of F. Lee Bailey's anatomy didn't score points with the jury.) To win over the jury, a good prosecutor would have empathized with the jurors and acknowledged how difficult their task was ... He (or she) would have made it clear that he understands how hard this is for members of the jury.

Ms. Clark went in to the trial thinking she already had OJ convicted and her "victory" would propel her into legal superstardom - she was on her way to becoming another Leslie Abrahamson or Gloria Allred. Instead, she blew the biggest case of her life. The real fault though is with Gil Garcetti - he simply should not have selected Ms. Clark to prosecute the case - although it's fairly easy to figure out why he did.
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04-18-2015 , 12:13 PM
20 years later and we're talking about the OJ trial just 2 days after Hernandez was found guilty.

Hernandez definitely #1 overall in future athlete criminal drafts.

lol Ricardo Tanner
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04-18-2015 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by stealinpotatoes
What screwed up the OJ trial was that LA cops were provably racists and almost without doubt planting evidence and everybody who lived there knew it. Also OJ was nothing like Hernandez. Much more of an icon.
+1

OJ's defence team proved the cops planted evidence. Once they proved the cops were willing to lie on the stand. And the detective that was accused by the defence of planting evidence and lying on the stand, took the 5th when asked if he planted evidence. OJ was free to go. As guilty as he is/was. The correct verdict was made by the jury.

It was the trial Johnny C had been preparing for his entire life. He finally had a client with enough money to prove the cops were planting evidence.

Last edited by powder_8s; 04-18-2015 at 01:19 PM.
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04-18-2015 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
20 years later and we're talking about the OJ trial just 2 days after Hernandez was found guilty.

Hernandez definitely #1 overall in future athlete criminal drafts.

lol Ricardo Tanner
Props to whomever bumped the Criminal draft thread so I could go back and read it:

From 2015:

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Originally Posted by RT
No idea why you're still concerned, but wasn't that Rae Carruth? I thought it was.

In any case, even though you know this already, I was talking about the severity of the crime, you were talking about the media and popularity around it. Oops.

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Originally Posted by A-Rod's Cousin
I was talking about the draft. So were you. You just made the draft about sortbyconfirmedkills, ignore all ancillary stuff. At least now you are clearly stating that OJ is still the clear #1. You didn't back in the old thread.
(emphasis yours)

Which I was pretty clearly talking about back then.

From 2013:

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Originally Posted by RT
Again, if we're taking media exposure into account (which no one could seem to agree on from the outset) then obv the Trial of the Century is #1, but that's a function of it's time. OJ doing that today wouldn't be the same, ironically in large part because of what OJ did in 1994.

His crime isn't #1 tho:
(emphasis mine)

Your fixation with this one is beyond creepy. Just ask nicely and PM me your address and I'll ship you a glossy 8x10 to add to what I imagine is an already impressive shrine.
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04-18-2015 , 04:04 PM
Man, reading back over the first few pages of this thread is pretty great. Highlights from the first 450 posts or so:

Vagos set's a line:

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Originally Posted by Vagos
If I set the o/u right now for

'Next time we see Aaron Hernandez catch a pass in a regular season game'

at Week 9, 2013

you take the...?
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Originally Posted by CPHoya
over, hesitantly
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Originally Posted by RT
Pretty much this. If this is nothing conclusive and all he has to deal with is Rog, he'll miss 2 games max. If this has legs he'll be a ward of the state.
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
I would take the under.

My complete guess on the situation:

Aaron hangs out with some gangsterish dudes and he fronts cash for a lot of their activities. They were involved in a murder somehow, and the cars they drive are rentals that he pays for. The fact his name is on the rental cars makes it even less likely that he was directly involved imo. He is a clean and legit person to have the cars named under, and that is probably his contribution to his boys, in turn they use the cars to carry out illegal ****, but keep him physically separated from it.

Was the dude who died a friend of his or an enemy?

Because if it was one of his friends, it becomes very very unlikely anything punitive happens to Hernandez (unless it is the guy suing him for the eye shooting, obv). If it is an enemy, it opens him up to conspiracy, etc. but still I doubt he is present for a murder, would take some extreme stupidity.
Oops

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Originally Posted by Dudd
I am snap taking the over, Rog likes to make examples of people. 2 games max feels more like 2 games min, could easily see the commish giving him a full season for letting his boys use his name to do their business, even if he ends up not getting charged with much/anything
A win for the wrong reasons is still a win.

Riverman killing it

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Originally Posted by Riverman
I love how every time these athlete criminal stories surface 2+2 is all like 'come on, that would be pretty stupid to do X, so (idiot athlete) clearly didn't do X.'

We're talking about professional athletes. Many of these people are very, very stupid.
Close enough:

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Originally Posted by wangpirate
at this point.. i snap call the over on him missing 8/9 games. it'd take a miracle for him to play at all this season i think

After it comes out he was driving the car and 4 left the club, 3 came back home:
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Originally Posted by Larry Legend
With that new info I will say I feel pretty confident AH will never play a game in the NFL again.
FW gives our thread it's title in response to LL:
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Originally Posted by ForumWithdrawal
Won't ever be a tight end either.
Oh Eddy, buddy:
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Originally Posted by EddyB66
I would be shocked, if a player the caliber of Hernandez in a state like MA with the power of the NFL and Kraft, did any time at all.
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Originally Posted by RT
Hey Vagos, too late to get a piece of that Over?
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Originally Posted by Vagos
New o/u

Prison sentence

15.5 yrs
Pay out Vagos lol!

Riverman correctly predicts the defense strategy two years in advance:
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Originally Posted by Riverman
He also seems likely to be stupid enough to think something along the lines of 'I didn't pull the trigger, they can't get me.'

Poor Pats fan:
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Originally Posted by youtalkfunny
Aw, man. This guy was my favorite Patriot (yes, I'm already using past tense). I need a new Pats jersey for this season, and it was going to be a #81.

It had to be HIM? It couldn't have been any of the running backs, or anyone on the defense not named Wilfork?

ETA: Gotta love Deadspin reader comments:
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04-19-2015 , 06:21 AM
After the verdict I did the same thing, read about 500 posts. Pretty amazing how we want to give the benefit of the doubt. It went from, of course not, to nobody is that stupid, to one of his friends, to holy ****.
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04-19-2015 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
standard

Damn, we were so close to the Riverman curse if his lawyer didn't volunteer him up at the scene of the crime.
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04-19-2015 , 01:12 PM
I'm shocked that an actual lawyer ended up posting better itt than people who watch Law & Order.
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04-23-2015 , 10:55 AM
Read article by the Sheriff saying Hernandez was a master manipulator in jail and will be running ****.
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05-11-2015 , 06:08 PM
AHern indicted today for that other guy he shot in the face and left for dead (but didn't actually die).
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05-11-2015 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
AHern indicted today for that other guy he shot in the face and left for dead (but didn't actually die).
Something just doesn't seem right about being charged with intimidating a witness by shooting him in the face. Reminiscent of Al Capone and tax evasion.
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05-20-2015 , 10:51 AM
Hernandez involved in a gang-related fight according to CNN.

He's going to thrive in prison. He probably loves it.
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05-20-2015 , 04:05 PM
dont worry, he wasn't actually fighting, he was just a lookout
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05-20-2015 , 09:44 PM
But they found Bubbliscious near the fight scene.
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05-21-2015 , 04:19 PM
His transition period seems to have gone well.
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05-21-2015 , 07:17 PM
Why on earth would jails let people get tattoos
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05-21-2015 , 07:29 PM
I don't believe they let them as it is illegal, they just get done.
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05-21-2015 , 07:30 PM
He should wear the little Adebisi hat in court as well
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05-21-2015 , 07:56 PM
What do jails do when a prisoner like AH is obviously loving life and having too much damn fun?
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05-21-2015 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Why on earth would jails let people get tattoos
Same reason they let them assault other convicts, let people bring in contraband, let them escape, etc.
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05-21-2015 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JWM155
What do jails do when a prisoner like AH is obviously loving life and having too much damn fun?
according to some guy on CNN these shenanigans (he already also got in trouble for looking out while another guy beat the **** out of someone), he is likely to land in solitary and go legit crazy
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05-21-2015 , 08:14 PM
How many teardrops though
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05-21-2015 , 08:49 PM
O/U before he's involved in another homicide as victim or perp?

2.5 years seems about right.
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05-21-2015 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ElEasily
This is really going to backfire on him once his appeal is granted and he becomes a free man, as I've heard Ernst & Young have a very strict "no visible prison tats" hiring policy.
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