The San Diego 3, Salt Lake 8 game is worse than the score sounds. Both teams should be regulated to a lower league after that. So many dumb things happened in that game. Fumbles at the half yard line, inexplicable interceptions thrown, somebody missed a chip shot FG, just absolute trash game for about everybody involved.

Welp, that didn't last long. They are suspending all operations.

**** me. I guess season tickets for the Fleet wasn't my best investment ever.

This has to be the most easy coming to see Riverman curse yet.

Youre up, XFL

Trent Richardson's 11 TDs all time AAF record what is dead may never die

MLS lost an estimated $250mm in it's first 5 seasons (that's about $400mm in 2019 dollars). Now each franchise is worth about $250mm.

I don't know if a football league can work, and there's an obvious difference between a minor league football team, and the MLS in terms of ceiling, but they've got to be willing to hemorrhage money for a while. Vince McMahon is at least saying the right things about willing to let it run a few seasons, though it's just words, and I feel like the AAF was saying the same things.

Edit - I guess MLS teams are still losing a lot of money, so maybe it's all a trap.

Flags fly forever. Orlando apollos baby

Spurrier goes out a winner in his (probable) last game coached

The thing is, the MLS was founded for the WC bid in '94. No one was asking for the AAF. Minor league football had already failed numerous times. At least with the MLS it's the highest level of soccer in the US. The problem with that league is the lack of a major TV deal. It probably does well regionally, but no one gives a **** watching a random MLS game when they can watch much higher quality soccer in the Premier League or other high level Euro soccer.

Also, I feel like anytime I stumble upon an MLS game it's on during a terrible time or after another major sporting event. I feel they are poorly marketed and not aggressive enough with their TV scheduling. I'm not saying go up against Saturday night NBA, but why haven't they really tried to go all out on Sunday with a similar schedule to the NFL with one afternoon, one late afternoon, and one evening game? I mean they hardly have any Sunday games and they aren't always nationally televised. Hell, most of their games are on Saturday and aren't even nationally televised.

Feels like this is correct. Anecdotally, some teams like Orlando City have consistently strong attendance despite consistently sucking on the pitch. AAF didn't even have attendance soooo

might never get the chance to bet against Mike Singletary again

Vince is crazy for even wanting to try the XFL again.

Not even finishing the season out jeez.

San Antonio/Orlando/San Diego attendance was fine for this league.

Oh, Salt Lake attendance was worse after the snow game and well this thread would've snap told you ATL/ARI were dead as soon as they announced those locations.

the XFL is gonna all be in major cities including LA lolololol. Just move LA to SD, Seattle to Portland (YOLO), Houston to San Antonio, TB to Orlando,

I mean it'll still fail but at least that would give it the best shot.

Rich people have huge egos. He also couldn't tell you who won in the NFL the monday after. Dude just wants to torch millions on fire again because #YOLO. To be fair, when you have hundreds of employees you get to call independent contractors so you don't have to pay various **** for them, got nothing else to do with the money. (see John Oliver's segment this week for this one, though they are better now than they used to)

Of course, it would be Orlando that would finally find itself with a dominant sports team only to have it all go tits up.

Has it tho?

It seems like every example (USFL, XFLv1, AAF) has been trying to take on the NFL or in the AAF's case basically demand to be their feeder system.

If someone tried to set up a legitimate second tier system with no delusions of grandeur, they could probably do it.

It wouldn't be worth anything really, but there's enough demand for minor league sports locally that major cities could probably support second tier teams if the ticket prices were comparable to AAA baseball games.

They'd have to deal with finding 50 dudes willing to kill themselves for $50k/yr, but whatever, seems doable.

Lol anyone who invested

Between HS, college, and the NFL it's hard to justify a demand for minor league football. You wouldn't be able to run it for half the year, and spring is also a horrible time since coming off football people can wait, and you have plenty of playoffs for other sports.

The only real time to try and run a league is in the summer. Maybe if the NFL could have their own summer league. People also don't really want to see scrub players when there are already too many NFL players who aren't food enough for the league (also plenty of people that don't get a fair shake, but that's completely on how the NFL is run and structured).

There's a reason that some of the cities had pretty solid attendance and that has to do with proximity to NFL and college football. But there's only a handful of cities that have that issue and are big enough.

Absolutely cannot wait for the xfl cluster****

There's a lot of dead leagues in this timeframe. Arena League was decent for awhile when it had the TV deal on espn but is now basically dead. UFL was the same thing as the AAF about ten years ago, lasted a few seasons, they actually had to pay to get on TV instead of the other way around.

Indoor leagues in the midwest are still around but that's about it. The indoor games that have survived, well they aren't getting 50k/yr. Not even 5k/yr so...

Heck, there was even another AAF several years ago that ended up never launching.

I had already forgotten about the FXFL.

btw, the XFL is gonna be it's own thing and well it'll last as long as vince wants to torch money.

If AAF ran itself as an alternate to players playing college football as opposed to a developmental league for the NFL, it might work better. College athletes being amateurs is labor exploitation to me. Offering an option for them to play and get paid to then be drafted is the way to go.

also it looks like Dumdum is gonna lose 70M but people think he just wanted the gambling app they were developing. Figures.