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05-11-2024 , 09:07 PM

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madlex

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So apparently Livvy Dunne's boyfriend plays a little baseball?

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05-11-2024 , 10:12 PM

#427

All-inMcLovin

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lol seriously though I've contemplated getting the new Mets jersey

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05-12-2024 , 12:05 AM

#428

Tuma

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I dunno what Txdome is smoking (probably nothing) but Detroit's City Connect jerseys are straight fire in person.

Also Skubal is the real deal

Pretty nice crowd for the Tigazz ass whooping today. Shout out to the music guy for playing Tiny Dancer for Altuve.

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05-12-2024 , 12:39 AM

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702guy

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So apparently Livvy Dunne's boyfriend plays a little baseball?

more like Skenes GF is a multi-millionaire who could get rid of him at anytime she pleases

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05-12-2024 , 02:21 PM

#430

Jimmy Proffett

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The Buccos walked in 6 runs yesterday with the bases loaded... and won.

That's gotta be a first.

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05-12-2024 , 10:10 PM

#431

702guy

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who woke the mets up in the 9th inning tonight? did not see that coming.

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05-12-2024 , 10:17 PM

#432

GusJohnsonGOAT

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Originally Posted by Tuma

I dunno what Txdome is smoking (probably nothing) but Detroit's City Connect jerseys are straight fire in person.

They are straight garbage. Don't need to see them in person to realize this.

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05-12-2024 , 10:32 PM

#433

TJ Eckleburg12

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who woke the mets up in the 9th inning tonight? did not see that coming.

Nor I.

Still 2 out of 3 for the Braves on the road, guess I’ll have to take it.

Braves on Sunday Night Baseball again next week, hosting the Padres

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05-12-2024 , 10:45 PM

#434

King_of_NYC

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hate them both but Marcell > Mookie rn

(not really. don't come at me bro)

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05-12-2024 , 10:49 PM

#435

TJ Eckleburg12

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He’s been fantastic.

So crazy that the Marlins once started an outfield of Giancarlo Stanton, Marcell Ozuna, and Christian Yelich. With Jose Fernandez dealing on the mound.

…What could have been.

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05-13-2024 , 02:09 AM

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WotPeed

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According to the Padres broadcast tonight:

Padres starters have gone 4 consecutive games pitching 5+ innings and giving up 2 hits or less each time. First time that's happened since at least 1893. Seems hard to believe:

Cease: 7IP 1H 0R 0ER 2BB 12K
King: 7IP 2H 0R 0ER 3BB 11K
Waldron: 5.1IP 2H 2R 2ER 2BB 6K
Darvish: 7IP 2H 0R 0ER 1BB 7K

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05-13-2024 , 02:34 AM

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That's incredible that that's never happened. Players did used to get more hits though.

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05-13-2024 , 01:54 PM

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I dunno what Txdome is smoking (probably nothing) but Detroit's City Connect jerseys are straight fire in person.

They belong in a fire.

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05-13-2024 , 11:39 PM

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lol angels bullpen again...they are horrific

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05-14-2024 , 05:51 PM

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I keep seeing articles pop up about the Astros trade chips(Bregman, Yordong, Framber) from national news sites.

Spoiler:

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05-14-2024 , 09:16 PM

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Breaking News: Astros caught cheating.

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05-14-2024 , 09:23 PM

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Breaking News: Astros caught cheating.

**** off. Dumbass umps tossed a pitcher because he was sweating too much in humid ass houston and using the openly available rosin bags on the mound to help dry his hands. The Oakland pitcher had to change jerseys in the 4th inning because he had already sweated through his first uniform. Stupid **** subjective rule with the umps kind of just guessing what's against the rules.

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The original rules about ball doctoring include rosin on the list of ways a player can “intentionally discolor or damage” the ball. Even more saliently, on March 16 of this year, the league sent a memo to teams specifying that rosin use could rise to the level of illegality:

“Please keep in mind that player use of rosin always must be consistent with the requirements and expectations of the Official Baseball Rules. When used excessively or otherwise misapplied (i.e., to gloves or other parts of the uniform), rosin may be determined by the umpires to be a prohibited foreign substance, the use of which may subject a player to ejection and discipline. See OBR 3.01 and OBR 6.02(d). Moreover, players may not intentionally combine rosin with other substances (e.g., sunscreen) to create additional tackiness.”

The critical issue, then, is not the substance; it’s the stickiness.

This seems, frankly, pretty murky. Stickiness is not objective and cannot be measured. Knowledge of stickiness is nontransferable; it cannot be described in a way that necessarily creates a uniform understanding. In the moment, it might be easy to determine if one thing is stickier than something else, but level of stickiness is not a memory that can be double-checked after the fact.

That subjectivity is baked into this whole endeavor of policing pitchers’ use of grip enhancements. A lot of officiating is imperfect, but this seems inherently a little absurd in a way that becomes relevant only when a pitcher gets popped. I believe the frequent, concerted checks are doing something to discourage the behavior, but when a pitcher does get ejected, there seems to be no way to drill down to satisfying specifics.

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That absurdity is rarely highlighted, however, because only three pitchers have been ejected for having sticky hands since the crackdown was announced. Curiously, all three instances have come after umpire Phil Cuzzi conducted a check.

I’m not going to run the math on probabilities to prove that it’s simply not possible that this is because, over the course of thousands of games, Cuzzi has encountered the only three instances of pitchers abusing sticky stuff. Perhaps Cuzzi is a tyrant or has a personal vendetta, but I’m not going to accuse him of that, and you don’t have to think he’s at fault for this to be an obvious issue with MLB’s enforcement.

As part of this initiative, umpires went through sticky stuff training. They practiced distinguishing between SpiderTack and rosin, rosin mixed with sunscreen and rosin mixed with water, etc. Effort was made to standardize their subjective sensory experiences. But they were evidently not standardized enough.

We know pitchers have been using an untoward amount of something sticky — rosin or otherwise — even in the era of on-field checks. That means umpires other than Cuzzi have likely come across a pitcher with hands that were, objectively speaking, “too sticky,” but perhaps they didn’t feel confident enough in their subjective determination to call for an ejection. And that’s a big problem when you consider that a culture of permissiveness is how we got into this predicament in the first place.

This is especially true if rosin can be the culprit. If a pitcher is using a legal substance and getting checked regularly without issue, then an umpire objecting to something that might’ve been permissible in a different game is an obvious threat to fairness.

Maybe Scherzer had too much rosin on his hands or had inadvertently created a super-rosin concoction or was willfully and nefariously cheating. But if the policing of sticky stuff isn’t actually standardized — and this instance highlights the ways in which it might not be — then MLB can’t claim to be leveling the playing field. Rules around competitive integrity work only if you can prove that punishment is enforced evenly.

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05-14-2024 , 10:07 PM

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txdome your meltdowns are the only reason people keep making astros cheating jokes...just sayin'

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05-14-2024 , 10:44 PM

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I was under the impression that the Astros played in a climate controlled dome.

And the humidity today was 48%

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05-14-2024 , 11:00 PM

#445

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txdome your meltdowns are the only reason people keep making astros cheating jokes...just sayin'

I know, and I'm not actually fully serious. Cowboycold again JP Sears changed his uniform between innings because he had sweated through it according to the A's broadcasters.

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05-15-2024 , 08:38 PM

#446

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Aaron Judge goes 467 feet into the third deck in Minnesota:

https://streamable.com/3av050

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05-15-2024 , 10:21 PM

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Judge had himself a pretty good day:

HR, double, double, double, walk. 10 total bases, 0 outs.

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05-16-2024 , 05:12 PM

#448

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Javy Baez is bad you say? Just how bad could he be? Oh. THIS BAD:

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Báez has an 18 wRC+ this season, meaning he is 82% worse than the average hitter. His 18 wRC+ ranks 166th among 166 qualified players, trailing Andrew Benintendi's 45 wRC+ in 165th place.

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05-16-2024 , 09:55 PM

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Astros rollin with a 24 man roster for the next 10 days, because the potato nosed guidos in NY think it may help the Yankees at the end of the season to suspend Blanco. Nope doesn't matter, Astros will be at the the top of their division after this stupid stretch of 1 game off during a 29 game stretch leading up to the AS break and Yankees will to set K records. imo.

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05-16-2024 , 10:26 PM

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702guy

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txdome - if nothing else, I do admire your passion for the Astros. U R a true fan.

kinda takes me back to being a ute (youth for spanish speakers) and an eternally hopefully crads fan after they won the '85 World Series...never thought things could get this bad.

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