What makes you believe I'm Adam Schein?

Joe Montana had the best player at their position in any sport ever catching his passes, and that isn't held against him. I don't see why good teammates make a QB worse.

But it's probably a tossup right now but to me it's moot. The only question for Mahomes really is whether he passes Brady for GOAT status. He's only 28.

The story of the Chiefs this year is the defense. Mahomes is mostly just being a game manager and making a few big plays when needed.

If the Chiefs didn't have a championship caliber defense this year, even Mahomes playing out of his mind couldn't have dragged them this far.

The real story imo is Veach absolutely nailing the draft the last 3-4 years.

Sneed
McDuffie
Creed
Bolton
Trey Smith
Rashee Rice
Karlaftis
Pacheco
Willie Gay
Mike Danna
Jaylen Watson
Bryan Cook
Joshua Williams
Leo Chenal
Chamarri Connor

All still on rookie deals, all major contributors, a couple all pros, and several more playing at pro-bowl level.

I totally agree. Really, truly boring. IDK, maybe the boring hire is the right one but you'd think you'd find an Offensive coach to partner with a top QB pick

although maybe....just maybe this might cause them to trade down for a huge haul and build around Howell. Which would be really good fun for content purposes

Chiefs ranked 15th in Rush Defense, giving up 4.5 YPC.


#1 Rusher in the league CMC - 1459

2nd - Henry - 1167

There's always the chance that for some unforeseen reason, the 49'ers will choose to completely ignore the run like the Ravens. Kinda doubtful though.

I was actually thinking the same thing

Quinn isn’t the guy you’re hiring if you’re taking a potential future of the franchise at 2

I agree with this.

The Chiefs have drafted very well, they found contributors all over the field on both sides of the ball, at every round of the draft.

I wish the Falcons had half as many solid starters from their last 3 drafts…. Especially in rounds 3-7.

And this is by far the best defense of the Mahomes era.

you misspelled four

Maybe he can assemble another all star coordinator/assistant staff to carry him like in Atlanta.

Maybe Commanders plan on keeping Eric Bienemy as OC?

His QB in Kansas City apparently was a big fan of him.

nothing wrong with that tbh. Head Coach as CEO is better in the long term IMO than rock star whizz kid HC

Albeit, Vrabel BB and Carroll not getting jobs suggests the NFL disagrees

well their offense wasn't completely horrible, considering that their quarterback was something called sam howell. their problem was that their defense was the worst in the league by a mile. so if keeping bienemy is an option, i'd prob look into it

Not to rip off the Bork bandaid and trainwreck the next 50 posts but

I believed Kyle thinking this to be the case from the very beginning, but it’s very weird to see it actually admitted to. Seems confusing in context. If Lance played out halfway decently and didn’t shatter his ankle then what?

Harbs is a weird ****in guy

whats the reason i'm supposed to be thinking and whats the actual one? because i got nothin...


langerrrrr in the wild

I think Dan Campbell did that/has been doing that for a while

but it seems more on brand for him

ultimately I guess it shows that the NFL and it's teams are $Billion organisations and there are politics at play when making decisions

I get your overall point, who you're trying to give credit to and what you're trying to say.

But ultimately the Chiefs are just another average team if they had an average QB. Mahomes is the core which this is all built upon. Same with Brady. I just saw people make this mistake for 2 decades.



Without the top QB propping a poverty offense up, it is just another 7-8 win team and then who cares how many good defensive picks you make. You know how many NFL teams don't have elite QB's propping up certain aspects of their team but make good moves like those listed above? It just ultimately ends up being meaningless and no one cares.

And Mahomes leading 2 long TD drives to start the game sets the Chiefs D up to play their style the rest of the game basically. When you largely know how you're going to have to play to win certain games, it makes the defenses job a lot easier.


When I said this about Brady it just sounded like simping truther stuff, but it basically true of the elite QBs even when they aren't dominating. It is a universal truth that can't really be quantified.

If the Chiefs had Derek Carr (not elite, but not a bum either) throwing to an aging Kelce, Rashee Rice and JAGS, their defense being good would be some footnote no one cared about. And their run D would get exposed a lot more in gameflow neutral situations, not to mention you probably get more injuries from being on the field more.

The Panthers had a good defense this year, so did the Patriots.

And no one is going to give your GM credit when you've spent high picks on Skyy Moore, CEH, traded for Toney and have average play at the offensive tackle positions when you have like the 18th best offense in the NFL. Actually, you might get fired sooner than later. The good gets amplified, the bad gets minimized with a Mahomes.

Panthers defense was 25th in DVOA. It probably seems better than it was since their offense was so awful and for a team with such a bad record usually the defense is absolutely horrendous like Washington's.

yeah, wasn't really meaning in total but more late in the year when Horn was back they were a lot better. Some of that is schedule setup too, but point remains that most of these bum teams did some things right that end up not meaning much because their QB sucks or is mediocre.

When you make the AFCCG every year and the Super Bowl almost every year. If they didn't do those this year, those hard questions were getting asked. They might anyway.

As the 3 seed they beat the 2 seed on the road and the 1 seed on the road. Both of which were very strong teams.

It's the height of delusional fandom to say that's all just Mahomes doing Mahomes things. They got lucky. Mahomes is doing his best Eli Manning impression. Anyone who says otherwise needs to produce the receipts of how much they bet on the Chiefs to make the Super Bowl, as they had longshot odds right up until the playoffs started.

I don't really care about any of these people to have bias towards them. I did bet the Chiefs vs Bills and Dolphins which I posted here, not sure what that has to do with anything.

No one said its ALL Mahomes just like no one ever said it is all Brady, he's just the main and most important ingredient. Replace him with a QB you deem league average and the Chiefs are just another run of the mill team barring small sample run good.

We just did this **** for 20 years with another guy, now you let 1-2 years go by and you're right back at it?

I agree, this years team would be average w/o Mahomes. My only point is that this team also wouldn't be going anywhere w/o this defense.

Everyone has some whiffs. Show me a team that's drafted better than the Chiefs the last 4 years (remember they're picking usually around 30th in each round).

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

You said with Mahomes the good gets amplified and the bad gets minimized.

And I said it's not Mahomes: it's winning.

The rest was explaining that. I wont repeat it, so as not to obfuscate my point again.