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12-18-2023 , 09:55 AM

#1901

StoppedRainingMen

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The othani contract is truly one of the most fascinating ever signed and my good god Friedman is an evil genius

Friedman’s contract is up next year. If he leaves Ohtani has an option to opt out that is only triggered with him leaving the team

Meaning he has an absolutely unholy amount of leverage to bend the dodgers over and name his price

Well played, sir

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12-19-2023 , 12:57 AM

#1902

wetleg

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I didn’t realize until the other day there was a 60 Minutes piece on Ohtani one year before he came to the majors. It was really good.

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12-22-2023 , 12:30 AM

#1903

StoppedRainingMen

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Aite, **** baseball

See you in a decade, thread

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12-22-2023 , 12:33 AM

#1904

StoppedRainingMen

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So next year verlander will make significantly more than Ohtani and Yamamoto combined

Neat!

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12-22-2023 , 12:39 AM

#1905

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They REALLY didn't like getting swept this year.

Last edited by ec_outlaw; 12-22-2023 at 12:46 AM.

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12-22-2023 , 12:58 AM

#1906

madlex

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So they did $325mil to surpass Cole by $1mil?

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12-22-2023 , 01:26 AM

#1907

wetleg

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I’ve never been more excited for one team and their upcoming season than I am for the Dodgers in 2024. I’d have to go back to like 91-93 IU basketball to come even remotely close.

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12-22-2023 , 01:33 AM

#1908

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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen

Aite, **** baseball

See you in a decade, thread

Baseball is so random. Having great players doesn’t mean you’ll win anything. I would be shocked if the Dodgers don’t win at least 2 World Series with this group though.

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12-22-2023 , 01:46 AM

#1909

King_of_NYC

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a cool billion on two guys. must be nice.

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12-22-2023 , 02:27 AM

#1910

wetleg

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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC

a cool billion on two guys. must be nice.

And the Dodgers payroll is still below the Mets and Yankees.

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12-22-2023 , 08:03 AM

#1911

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And the Dodgers payroll is still below the Mets and Yankees.

not according to Fangraphs.

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12-22-2023 , 05:55 PM

#1912

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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC

not according to Fangraphs.

Well there was a guy online last night who I trust who said it. I don’t personally know myself but I’ll go with what he said.

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12-22-2023 , 07:16 PM

#1913

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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC

not according to Fangraphs.

are they counting Ohtani as 70 m? because it's really not.

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12-22-2023 , 08:13 PM

#1914

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are they counting Ohtani as 70 m? because it's really not.

I don't think they do, the AAV is listed as $46mil.

But I think Fangrpaphs uses a 2024 projection of $286mil for the Dodgers and not where they are at right now pre-arbitration and stuff.

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12-22-2023 , 11:00 PM

#1915

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Originally Posted by borg23

are they counting Ohtani as 70 m? because it's really not.

This list has then 9th and everyone is included. Not sure what to believe https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

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12-22-2023 , 11:34 PM

#1916

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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC

This list has then 9th and everyone is included. Not sure what to believe https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/payroll/

That's their current payroll. It's highly unlikely that they'll play the season with 15 players though.

For salary cap purposes, Ohtani, Glasnow, Betts, Freeman and Yamamoto alone are in the neighborhood of $150mil.

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12-23-2023 , 04:30 AM

#1917

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What the hey is the Dodgers annual revenue? Looks like about $600 million.

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12-23-2023 , 08:55 AM

#1918

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Originally Posted by FellaGaga-52

What the hey is the Dodgers annual revenue? Looks like about $600 million.

That's also what Forbes says, #2 behind the Yankees at $650mil. At a payroll (players only) of $269 and $262 respectively.

To compare those numbers with one of the big soccer clubs: In their latest fiscal year, Bayern had a revenue of roughly $940mil and total payroll (players, staff, executives, everyone else) of $425mil.

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12-23-2023 , 09:18 AM

#1919

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Originally Posted by madlex

That's their current payroll. It's highly unlikely that they'll play the season with 15 players though.

where do you see only 15 guys? the sportrac number has a full 40-man roster listed with ~26 players contributing to the payroll numbers

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12-23-2023 , 04:00 PM

#1920

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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC

where do you see only 15 guys? the sportrac number has a full 40-man roster listed with ~26 players contributing to the payroll numbers

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/los-ange...dgers/payroll/

There are 15 players with a "payroll salary" right now. Everybody else that already has a luxury tax number doesn't show up under payroll salary because of arbitration. Plus Yamamoto.

At the bottom of the page you can see projected numbers for tax calculations.

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12-23-2023 , 06:48 PM

#1921

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12-24-2023 , 04:23 PM

#1922

wetleg

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Here’s a new list from the guy I was mentioning above.

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12-24-2023 , 05:16 PM

#1923

wetleg

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Ohtani gifted Joe Kelly’s wife a Porsche as a thank you for getting number 17. Not sure if he gave Kelly anything else or he just voluntarily gave up his number. Think he might have.

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12-24-2023 , 10:37 PM

#1924

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Originally Posted by wetleg

Ohtani gifted Joe Kelly’s wife a Porsche as a thank you for getting number 17. Not sure if he gave Kelly anything else or he just voluntarily gave up his number. Think he might have.