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View Poll Results: Who will win the World Series?
+600 Houston Astros
2 9.09%
+750 Atlanta Braves
3 13.64%
+750 Los Angeles Dodgers
0 0%
+850 New York Yankees
2 9.09%
+900 New York Mets
3 13.64%
+1000 San Diego Padres
2 9.09%
+1200 Toronto Blue Jays
2 9.09%
+1500 Philadelphia Phillies
0 0%
+2000 Seattle Mariners
2 9.09%
Someone else
6 27.27%

07-20-2023 , 04:24 PM
at lease we weren't on the run line
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07-20-2023 , 04:29 PM
Run line is the sucker bet
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07-20-2023 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Angels aren’t letting Ohtani go for a discount. I think they’re stubborn enough to roll the dice with him and sell tickets pretending they’re making a playoff push rather than sell him for less than the going rate for him. Whoever trades for him, rental or not, is paying up the ass for him knowing full well he’s hitting free agency
Sure but this probably means Ohtani doesn't get traded. The Angels, by waiting so long to trade him, backed themselves into a corner where a reasonable package that reflects Ohtani's fair value as a midseason rental, will get them mocked because casual fans and many members of the media just look at the players involved without understanding the contract situations and so on (which, btw, is a much bigger mistake in baseballs, where average rookies are far more valuable than superstars on market-price contracts compared to, say, basketball, where superstars on max deals are far better assets than average players on rookie deals). Meanwhile, other teams have no real reason to give into the Angels' unrealistic demands just to save them from a PR disaster.
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07-20-2023 , 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
cosigned
We did it dodger
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07-20-2023 , 11:35 PM
Birdland
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07-20-2023 , 11:44 PM
I keep waiting for news that Spencer Strider’s elbow has exploded…. But he keeps putting up peak Randy Johnson strikeout numbers
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07-21-2023 , 01:32 AM
Stridahhhh is a stud pony

The Mountain, Felix Bautista, too. put that all-star bs behind him
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07-21-2023 , 03:13 AM
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Birdland
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07-21-2023 , 03:25 AM
give me melody, or give me harmony! wat

40? years was their last WS. it's destined
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07-21-2023 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by StoppedRainingMen
Angels aren’t letting Ohtani go for a discount. I think they’re stubborn enough to roll the dice with him and sell tickets pretending they’re making a playoff push rather than sell him for less than the going rate for him. Whoever trades for him, rental or not, is paying up the ass for him knowing full well he’s hitting free agency

The teams who will absolutely be trying to deal for him:

Rangers
Doyers

The teams who will attempt to deal for him:

Giants
Yankees
Blue Jays

The teams who MIGHT shoot their shot:

Rays
Red Sox
Orioles
Barves

I don’t think it’s realistic to think his free agency will drive down the price. You’re trading for him cuz he’s the single best player in baseball and he might deliver you a title. I don’t think the angels let him go for anything less than the largest (theoretical) haul a trade target had ever gotten
The Dodgers....if they decide they want Ohtani now....will certainly offer the best package. The problem is that Moreno seems to have dug in his heels and said he won't trade Ohtani to the Dodgers for any reason. It would be stupid of course. You should always take the best deal. Now I think the Dodgers are pretty confident they can get Ohtani in the offseason. They may just wait and keep all those prospects.
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07-21-2023 , 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
The problem is that Moreno seems to have dug in his heels and said he won't trade Ohtani to the Dodgers for any reason. It would be stupid of course. You should always take the best deal.
How do you define "best deal" in that context though? From an economical perspective it might very well make sense to not have Ohtani play for the other team in the local market.
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07-21-2023 , 07:30 PM
It would be ****ed if his mvp and Cy get monkeyed up by switching leagues and splitting stats. Or maybe he could win both in both leagues.
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07-21-2023 , 08:29 PM
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It would be ****ed if his mvp and Cy get monkeyed up by switching leagues and splitting stats. Or maybe he could win both in both leagues.
Do you think he breaks the AL HR record?

Judge said he was rooting for him and that "records are meant to be broken".
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07-22-2023 , 01:23 PM
I mean I wouldn’t worry too much about him winning the Cy

That said I do remember this being an issue when sabathia went to the brewers at the deadline
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07-22-2023 , 04:03 PM
Yeah, if a team knowingly trades for Ohtani as a rental, they’ll DH him every day and have him throw 120+ pitches every 5th day and give ZERO ****s
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07-22-2023 , 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TJ Eckleburg12
Yeah, if a team knowingly trades for Ohtani as a rental, they’ll DH him every day and have him throw 120+ pitches every 5th day and give ZERO ****s
Very sure he's smart enough (or at least his advisors are) to not do anything stupid that could jeopardize his next contract.

He doesn't have a say in where he goes but what he does there is up to him.
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07-22-2023 , 05:08 PM
Boras will raise hell but Ohtani will do whatever’s asked
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07-22-2023 , 07:13 PM
Heard a crazy stat in the pregame show.

The Braves have played 100 games.

They’ve hit at least 1 home run in 88 of them.
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07-22-2023 , 08:08 PM
Weird play in the Yankees game

Royals hit a slow roller down the third base line.
Third basemen swats the ball with his glove.
It looked foul but the ump calls it fair.
Cole picks the ball up and throws the batter out going to second.

Since Boone is a collosal moron he wants to challenge the play saying it was foul and Cole has to tell him not to.
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07-22-2023 , 10:10 PM
oh heck yes

Grayson Rodriguez is back up, and has held his own versus the dodgers and rays iirc. birds fittin to get some separation

can still get them to win the east at around +210
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07-22-2023 , 10:35 PM
Rangers win 6 in a row out of the break including a sweep of TB.

Then we/they/them play the Dodgers at home wearing their goofy city unis and woof.
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07-23-2023 , 12:00 AM
yeah. they got mashed up

dodgers did the same to Bmore, ending the O's minimum 8-peat wat
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07-23-2023 , 04:37 PM
Ohtani's next (and potentially final) start for the Angels has been pushed back to Friday at Toronto. That game is on AppleTV+.
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07-23-2023 , 05:35 PM
I know there is zero chance but I want the Tigazzz to rent Ohtani.
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07-23-2023 , 05:51 PM
Angels are 4 games out of Wild Card last spot.. soon to be 3.5 games back after they likely win today. So now they are conceivably within very reasonable distance. They won't trade Ohtani and will now lose the best player in the history of baseball for Nothing!


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