Four events: vault, uneven bars, beam, and floor.

I would think 3 of these events would be dangerous to do if your heads not in it.

I give Simone Biles credit for staying out there, cheering on her teammates.

Correct me if I’m wrong on how the scoring works in gymnastics:

You take the top 3 out of 4 scores per event for your team.

Without Biles, the USA was forced to take all 3 gymnasts scores.

So wouldn’t USA be free rolling if Biles could of sucked it up and competed?

You are wrong. For the finals, you choose 3 competitors per event, and use all 3 scores. There are 4 members of each team so typically they get to pick and choose whose best to compete at each event where the US some of them were competing at their weakest event.

After Biles first event it was probably best of her to step out cause she legitimately was shook. If you want to call her mentally weak or whatever fine, but theres no chance she gave the US the best chance at winning gold

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying

You think a coach should have the only say in whether an athlete competes or not? It seems like this would cause a bunch of problems.

I deleted the post because I believe I misinterpreted the point you were making in your post. I realized you weren't saying that the coach should've replaced her after she pulled out of the first discipline this morning in the team event with another USA#1 gymnast (which I'm guessing isn't possible).

Indeed. This comes with big boy (and big girl) sports.

To bring Kerri Strug back into the discussion... if the coach thinks the team has a better shot at winning with an injured Strug than they do without, then she performs regardless of her personal well-being?

I understand why she is facing criticism, but just because she was elected to the team and has some level of team obligation does not mean that her decision wasn't correct for her and/or the team.

You keep acting like this is was a TEAM event. This is an individual sport. it was 4 (3) individuals whos scores got added together. How is a coach ever going to make the call to sit the GOAT when they have no idea what is going on in Biles head.

She has the yips. She completely psyched herself out. This isnt like Naomi Osaka who deals with depression/mental illness.

You seem to be getting off to the idea that you got to see someone at the top of their sport collapse in front of the whole world.

Hungarian guy in the 200 fly just destroyed the field and doesn’t even look out of breath.

It’s individual scores, but there’s still a team element. Not like basketball or whatever but the team still considers who is better in what events, order, maybe changing up what you go for if you’re ahead or behind, plus just the mental aspect of supporting and pushing each other.

I have no hate for Biles on this. It IS very individualistic and if she felt like she was going to hurt the teams chances or her safety then don’t go out there. At the same time it’s wrong to act like pushing through that kind of doubt and anxiety isn’t a part of being the best. There are probably thousands of times when she didn’t feel the best in the past and kept going because it was worth it then. That’s likely part of what makes her so dominant- she went past the point where others quit.

The viewpoint that it is ALWAYS laudable or preferable to opt out if you’re uncomfortable, or that the individual is the only person who matters in making that decision doesn’t sit well with me. I have a meeting on Thursday that a bunch of people are involved in. If I just called out that morning and said “hey guys, I’m not mentally prepared to participate”, then I expect I’d be fired the next day and justifiably so.

Basically, I think Biles is in a 99.9 percentile situation where her call about what to do is basically all that matters and to hold it up as something everyone should do all the time isn’t a great idea. Slippery slope and all that. But maybe I’m just becoming a boomer I dunno.

This Olympics-centric posting is great.

Keep it up guys.

Team USA men’s basketball players frustrated with head coach Gregg Popovich

I say it's about 50-50 that USA doesn't even medal.

So what happens when (I don't mean if, but when) multiple people on random team x get anxiety and don't want to shoot penalties/make their 6th dive, do a floor routine because they're scared? I mean good on them for looking after themselves I guess, but geez.

I'm currently in development of a stand-up routine about Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins on Apollo 11 and how Collins didn't go onto the moon because of 'mental health'. I'm sure it'll go swimmingly.

Today just solidifies Ali Raisman as the true goat

And now we revisit lolEngurland's penalties in the Euro football/soccer finals as to who choked/didn't and who should have stood up/stood down.

you could possibly curate a whole art thread/space

Did I read the Simone Bails meme here or somewhere else?

Grover posted that here

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One (Katie Ledecky), two (Erica Sullivan), in the 1500 Woman's freestyle, we've got that going for us.

Apple blew it in the second half of the 200 in the 4x200 relay, could definitely have used Dressel in his place.

That’s like comparing Apples and oranges

Women's water polo is always just like my 7 year old nieces having a pool party.imo. Why are we spreading covid for this?