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08-01-2021 , 04:19 PM
Antoine Walker
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08-01-2021 , 04:38 PM
Mayweather is in another league.
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08-01-2021 , 09:04 PM
I mean if Kane was betting on the sharks to lose it’s him by a mile lol

Gotta say I love his defense ‘of course it’s not true look how good I was’
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08-03-2021 , 10:43 AM
The real bad look here is on Wilson & co. That extension 3 years ago was DOA; even a miniscule amount of due diligence should've raised serious red flags and made them pause before handing out an almost $50M commitment.

Dude's been a bad apple for years. Sadly, this shouldn't be a surprise.
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08-03-2021 , 10:59 AM
I know he's a known degen but I'd pause at least a little bit because taking that he threw games or similar at face value
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08-03-2021 , 11:55 AM
Maybe fake geddy lee can answer a question: how could a wing throw a game without being obvious? and how confident could bettors be that it would work?
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08-03-2021 , 12:09 PM
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I think he has a no move clause kicking in next year if I remember correctly.
For some reason, I don't think the NMC will be a problem if they come to him and say "we're ready to trade you".
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08-03-2021 , 12:36 PM
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Maybe fake geddy lee can answer a question: how could a wing throw a game without being obvious? and how confident could bettors be that it would work?
Not sure he could, aside from trying to serve up 6.9 pizzas per 60 or something...

If this is actually true, I find it more likely he was fixing on prop bets (e.g. SOG; hits; fights; etc.); this is just an insanely hard sport to fix, for multiple reasons.
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08-03-2021 , 12:58 PM
We need a goalie who bets. Then we going to sizzla
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08-03-2021 , 01:42 PM
players should be able to bet on their own team to win
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08-03-2021 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Geddy Lee
Not sure he could, aside from trying to serve up 6.9 pizzas per 60 or something...

If this is actually true, I find it more likely he was fixing on prop bets (e.g. SOG; hits; fights; etc.); this is just an insanely hard sport to fix, for multiple reasons.
Was wondering the same, but at a quick glance the online books offer small limits to those, would not be worth it. Could Vegas BM's offer a lot bigger limits? Dont have a clue but kinda doubt it for hockey?

Kane could affect win% quite a bit, easily worth it with possible volume of bets. Take pens, miss chances and passes and some bad turnovers. But yea youd still need multiple games to be confident of edge coming in. And he did have a good season yes lol.
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08-03-2021 , 08:48 PM
pretty sure vgk's top 2 lines were on the take in their last 2 playoff series losses. it's not that hard to get away with apparently.
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08-04-2021 , 01:49 PM
https://twitter.com/ByronMBader/stat...40978235666434


new kangzz dynasty about to drop ... unless they find a way to screw it up

seems like they have the #1 system itl by a mile

(like apparently they're loaded well beyond those 4 guys)


jealous
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08-04-2021 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
seems like they have the #1 system itl by a mile

(like apparently they're loaded well beyond those 4 guys)
I'll believe it when I see it.
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08-05-2021 , 08:24 AM
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new kangzz dynasty about to drop ... unless they find a way to screw it up
seems like they have the #1 system itl by a mile
This has been the belief for a while; the big danger is they look at Kopitar/Quick/Doughty and decide "we owe them one last shot" and blow the wad. Early signs like getting Danault aren't good; the next domino would be decimating their prospect pool for Eichel.

A really ruthless org would say "look guys, we're a couple of years out and we're not mortgaging the future. If you want out, just say so and we'll send you wherever you want to go. If you want to stay, great but understand our goal is to win multiple cups this decade, not one in the last couple years of your careers."
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08-05-2021 , 10:36 AM
Trading for Eichel is hardly mortgaging the future, even though it'd make navigating the cap trickier. Still, if they were to end up in cap hell, there'd likely other deals you could point to as the culprit ahead of adding Eichel at a reasonable contract (see Danault, P.)

If the prospect pool is as good as advertised, seems unlikely an Eichel deal would decimate it despite what pipe dreams Buffalo has for a return. They're in a quite comfortable spot.
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08-05-2021 , 11:18 AM
the rangers are doing their damndest to screw their future up; don't think the kings cant do the same
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08-05-2021 , 11:26 AM
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pretty sure vgk's top 2 lines were on the take in their last 2 playoff series losses. it's not that hard to get away with apparently.
I noticed a ton of Habs guys on the take in the Finals. Only explanation.
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08-05-2021 , 12:42 PM
Fleury doesn’t give up that horrific goal and VGK probably wins that series. And then they get worked by TB in the final.
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08-05-2021 , 02:31 PM
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If the prospect pool is as good as advertised, seems unlikely an Eichel deal would decimate it despite what pipe dreams Buffalo has for a return. They're in a quite comfortable spot.
All indications are that the Kings aren't negotiating for Eichel. Besides, all the cap room is gone.
My biggest worry is not developing the young players. The whole development staff is former teammates of Blake.
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08-05-2021 , 07:32 PM
For those of you who missed this. Reference's will be around for a while.

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08-05-2021 , 08:12 PM
Between that crap and him talking about taking below market on his next contract (we'll see), he better win cups in bunches to make it worth it.
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08-06-2021 , 01:02 PM
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Trading for Eichel is hardly mortgaging the future, even though it'd make navigating the cap trickier. Still, if they were to end up in cap hell, there'd likely other deals you could point to as the culprit ahead of adding Eichel at a reasonable contract (see Danault, P.)

If the prospect pool is as good as advertised, seems unlikely an Eichel deal would decimate it despite what pipe dreams Buffalo has for a return. They're in a quite comfortable spot.
That depends. If Buffalo holds strong and demands their four big assets, and the Kings go nuts and hand over (say) Byfield, Kaliyev, Bjornfot a 1st, plus make them take Quick to help with cap issues? That puts a pretty big hole in their prospect pool. Sure, you get Eichel - but you're basically betting your next 5 years on him being medically good.
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08-06-2021 , 02:10 PM
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That depends. If Buffalo holds strong and demands their four big assets, and the Kings go nuts and hand over (say) Byfield, Kaliyev, Bjornfot a 1st, plus make them take Quick to help with cap issues? That puts a pretty big hole in their prospect pool. Sure, you get Eichel - but you're basically betting your next 5 years on him being medically good.
I just don't think the Kings are in the Eichel sweepstakes anymore (wouldn't it make sense for any team to get Eichel to do it before the draft so involve the 2021 1st round pick? The Kings had #8 in the draft. You think Sabres would want that as part of the deal). They gave Danault a NMC for the first three years of his contract,. So I'm pretty certain they have established Kopitar and Danault as their top two centers for that time frame and they are banking on Byfield to step up in that time frame (hopefully, sooner than later, fingers crossed) and they will move Danault to 3C if needed.

I'm not that worried about Quick's contract in the last two years of it. If they do trade him, then they got to find another guy that can fill the void while Petersen is settling in being the starter for the future and from what I've been reading, they don't have anyone in the prospect pool that they are confident in yet to fill the void. I guess they can try their luck getting someone just fresh out of NCAA which is how they get Petersen.

Last edited by anguyen92; 08-06-2021 at 02:20 PM.
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08-06-2021 , 02:24 PM
Kings are not negotiating on Eichel. Danault took his spot

Quick is done. Hoping he retires gracefully. But probably not. He makes $2.5M cash next year.
Brown, Carter and Maatta remove $12M after this year.
Kopi has 2 years, but he's still performing. I bet he gets another contract. Hopefully for 1/3 less than his current $10M.
Doughty has 6(!) more years. He's the Kings biggest cap liability unless he gets back to Norris caliber.
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