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10-03-2021 , 11:37 PM

#401

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Doink

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10-03-2021 , 11:37 PM

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Hell of a kick in this shitstorm

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10-03-2021 , 11:37 PM

#403

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Lol this sh*tshow 'The Return'

Cris and Al pushing the crap narrative for all they're worth

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10-03-2021 , 11:37 PM

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Damn he had the leg on his longest ever in those conditions. I'm still happy that Belichick is 1-3. But I think the Pats are going to start winning.

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10-03-2021 , 11:39 PM

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DOINK of justice

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10-03-2021 , 11:39 PM

#406

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surprised to not see more LOL BELICHICKs in here. that was a terrible decision to kick

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10-03-2021 , 11:40 PM

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lol a 1.5 second embrace. Amazing.

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10-03-2021 , 11:40 PM

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Definitely lived up to the Game of the Millennium hype.

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10-03-2021 , 11:40 PM

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Patriots going 2-1 or 3-0 next three. Bucs play absolutely nobody till December.

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10-03-2021 , 11:41 PM

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I love how Collinsworth thinks this was the defining game of Mac Jones career - that just happens to have been on SNF!

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10-03-2021 , 11:41 PM

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That kick was soooooooo bad. Even if Folk makes it, you're like 50/50 to still lose the game to Brady with a minute and 2 TOs.

Get a first down, burn more clock, kick easier FG.

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10-03-2021 , 11:42 PM

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20% off your favorite zebra gear at NFL.com

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10-03-2021 , 11:43 PM

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surprised to not see more LOL BELICHICKs in here. that was a terrible decision to kick

It really was. Even if it goes in you have 0% equity with that much time left vs the goat.

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10-03-2021 , 11:44 PM

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I love how Collinsworth thinks this was the defining game of Mac Jones career - that just happens to have been on SNF!

It is pretty funny since Brady was dogshit today and the Bucs would've smashed them if they even brought their B+ game.

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10-03-2021 , 11:45 PM

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That kick was soooooooo bad. Even if Folk makes it, you're like 90/10 to still lose the game to Brady with a minute and 2 TOs.

Get a first down, burn more clock, kick easier FG.

FYP. deciding to kick a 56 yarder in the pouring rain that still only gives you 10% equity to win is unspeakably bad.

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10-03-2021 , 11:48 PM

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Brady with 50 wins since turning 40.

That's 5 10 win seasons, a decent career for most.

Re FG attempt, probably not great but hindsight 20-20. No way is TB 90% to kick gw FG with 50 seconds.

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10-03-2021 , 11:48 PM

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They were talking up Miles of the Texans last week, as though he was anything more than a long-necked stiff. And look at his stat-line v Buffalo today lol.

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10-03-2021 , 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

That kick was soooooooo bad. Even if Folk makes it, you're like 50/50 to still lose the game to Brady with a minute and 2 TOs.

Get a first down, burn more clock, kick easier FG.

yyyup

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10-03-2021 , 11:50 PM

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That kick was soooooooo bad. Even if Folk makes it, you're like 50/50 to still lose the game to Brady with a minute and 2 TOs.

Get a first down, burn more clock, kick easier FG.

lol the kick was awful

how is BB not getting ripped for that more?

punting at end of 1st half was awful too

TB secondary is in absolute shambles

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10-03-2021 , 11:51 PM

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I don't know why teams don't give a lot more weight to the backend of these made FGs or TDs late - TB is still favored to win even if that kick is good.

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10-03-2021 , 11:52 PM

#421

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lol the kick was awful

how is BB not getting ripped for that more?

punting at end of 1st half was awful too

TB secondary is in absolute shambles

It seems like he's trying to avoid damaging his young QB's confidence above winning games.

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10-03-2021 , 11:53 PM

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Obv team with ball last has big advantage. BB probably could have run a bit more clock instead of players running OOB. Those were bad decisions as well.

Maybe he was paying Arians back for that LOL TD pass attempt by Brady when 6 yards wins the game.

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10-03-2021 , 11:53 PM

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I don't think the call to kick was so bad considering he had enough leg and barely missed. You can't assume your defense can't protect a lead with less than a minute left.

Feels like defensively they let Brady convert way too many 3rd and long. Their best chance was after the offensive PI on Evans, 2nd and 18... no pressure on Brady and Bucs converted easily.

Also how about a draw play just to keep the defense honest? A lot of pressure on a rookie QB to completely abandon the run.

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10-03-2021 , 11:55 PM

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You have to be wayyyy more likely to make the kick than convert the 4th for that to be a good call. There is no way you can say that gimpy Folk in the rain for 56 yards is way more likely than Jones to get 3 yards.

It's pretty basic math. Put a % on Folk making the FG, Jones making the first down, and Brady driving down with 56 seconds left and 2 TOs to win. Try to make the #s work.

% of Folk making the FG has to be higher than the % of Jones making the 4th down + the % Brady driving to win.

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10-03-2021 , 11:59 PM

#425

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At some point it is the correct call. 40 seconds, 35, whatever. That was basically the problem, clock mamagement trying to conserve time on that last drive when they needed to do the opposite.

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