There are better stats for that than gross total RBIs.

The rbi list is nuts.

Joe Carter 64th all time
Jason Giambi 65th


and all the HOFers beneath them.

Just to name a few:

Ivan Rodriguez
Robin Yount
Johnny Bench
Ted Simmons

90s baseball was fire.

There are worse ones too. Doesn't mean that RBI aren't meaningful or that they aren't an important skill.

there is definitely skill involved in not striking out to get guys in from 3rd base and less than 2 outs for example. but it's largely based on where you hit in the lineup and who hits in front of you. pujols was still racking up rbis bc socia kept hitting him 3/4th behind the best player in baseball instead of way lower in the order where he belonged.

pujols was going to get a ton more rbi by hitting behind trout than he added by being able to hit situationally.

Sorry misread.

Complete schmucks season's have resulted in 100+RBIs just because the schmuck player got the right opportunities. See tony Batista and Joe Carter for some examples

Likewise some monster seasons have resulted in sub 100 RBIs.

yea nobody is talking about war when they see someone hit 4 home runs with 12 rbi. we can appreciate someone having an all time great game, especially if lucky enough to attend while still objectively trying to analzye how great someone is.do you think one amazing game makes whitten a great player? of course not. so what does that have to do with thinking war is bs or not?

that was also the second game of a double header. the first game ended 14-13.
long say for the other team's pitchers.


phil humber threw a pefect game and was out of baseball a year later at a young age because he was a gas can. that doesn't mean it wouldn't have been cool to see it.

ohtani leads the AL in home runs.
he also leads the AL in k/9.

small sample blah blah that is absurd.

I really hope he stays healthy and gets better command on the mound.

Tony Armas in 1983 what a season. Must've been great at RBIs skill.

Ohtani is amazing. The fact that Ohtani+Trout can't make a team successful says a lot about how little star players add in MLB. They could be co-mvps on a last place team.

sure but saves are moronic anyway.
you can come in up 3 to start the 9th, give up 2 runs and get a save. or you can come in up 1 bases loaded no outs, get a 6-4-3 dp, get the next guy out and you get a blown save. it's a joke.

you can also get a borowski. that is coming in up more than 3 to start the 9th.blow the game but it's not a blown save bc it isn't a save situation. it's what edwin diaz tried to do the other night when the umps bailed him out. i remember fernando rodney blowing a 4 run lead so it's not a blown save, and his team scored in the bottom of the 9th so he even got the win.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/b...00704190.shtml

here borowksi manages to give up 6 earned runs, getting 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth before arod puts him out of his misery with a walk off grand slam to blow a 4 run lead.he doesn't get a blown save. he had 45 saves and a 5 era. much like rbi the save is largely based on opportunity. he was the worst reliver the indians had but they kept throwing him out for the 9th and they were a good team with a lot of 9th inning leads so he got a lot of saves.
Despite his amazing 45 saves he was out of baseball early the next season because as it turns out if you keep getting your skull bashed in eventually even a team dumb enough to let you rack up a lot of saves will notice.

Yeah saves are an example of a stupid stat that actually ****s with the game because teams use a player based on the stat.

If they were as useless as everyone in love with sabermetrics claims - and I concede they aren’t a great measure of anything - opponents of RBI would have more examples to provide out of the 150 year history of the game than Carter and Votto, who are pretty much the only go-to’s every single time this discussion comes up. Once in awhile someone cites Mantle’s greatness despite only 4 100+ RBI seasons, or Pujols with the Angels like you did above, but that’s about it.

Tony Perez is a lot higher on the RBI list than he is on the greatest hitters of all time list.

Maybe they put Pujols in a juicy spot in the lineup because he's the guy hitting 40 homers and 40 doubles a year while hitting .330 for over a decade. Or maybe just random? 1300+ Xbh affects RBI totals, yo. No one ever drove in runs for as long and consistently as this guy except Aaron ... and its not a function of his hitting but is some kind of batting order phenomenon? Caveats for a few guys like Ruth and Williams whose careers were heavily interrupted at the plate.

The greatest righthand hitter ever maybe, is now being totally misrepresented simply because somebody paid him for too long. Sportswriters everywhere are conflating the natural erosion of his skill as some kind of epic fail with the contract. His legacy is being subsumed by that contract, but only by the clueless ...

In 1993, Ruben Sierra had 101 RBIs despite having an OPS of .678 and a WAR of -2.6.

You could do the same thing with WAR, which has Eddie Collins 10th all-time, ahead of TWilliams, Henderson, Ott, Gehrig, Yaz, Chipper Jones, and DiMaggio.

Brett Gardner has a higher career WAR than Albert Belle in roughly the same # of games and almost 5 more than Freeman in 100 more.

Good and fair example; out of 22 HR that year, 9 3-run jobs and 1 grand slam. Ran hot in the right spots.

Somehow his RBI rate per AB remained fairly consistent, some years even higher than his career rate, toward the end when he was always hitting .240-ish with 20 homers instead of nearly 100 points higher with 40+ homers. It was weird. I started wondering if he really had some talent for this. Of course not being a big strikeout guy helps.

There was a study done a couple years ago which claimed he was hurt by the shift more than any other player. Ever. He can still actually hit the baseball pretty well, it just can't show up in performance now. One of slowest players in game killed his hitting stats. Obv the combo of horrible speed and the shift just doesn't work. He obviously can still hit dingers, and Bonds and Aaron weren't totally safe until the last two years of developments.

Historic career. Top 15 ever in tons of things, top 5 in several. Because of his great hitting, yo.

No one's talking about his Cards career man

pujols is an all time great and was the best player in baseball for a long time

pujols had zero business hitting 3rd-4th for several years

those things can both be true

do you really think i thought he should have hit lower in the order on the cardinals hahahah

a manager should not make a lineup out based on what someone was
that's absurd.

He did come to be in the the Bonds GOAT era, which is just bad luck.

lotta interesting starts to this season. absolutely loving it

Defense and baserunning are real things, nobody claims Gardner was a better hitter than those guys.

Pujols went from getting 100 BB's per year to getting something like 40. Everything about him as a hitter got much worse. I'd be shocked if his hard hit ball rates with LA were anything resembling his rates with the Cards.

what's with all the hate for my main man joe carter?